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Is Neoconservatism Even A Doctrine At All?

 
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Ed Note: The discussion of neoconservatism starts here and continues here. Ali Eteraz jumps in to respond to the latest round, here.

Daniel Koffler says that when it comes to foreign policy, neoconservatism is neither liberal internationalism, nor illiberal expansionism, but really just an elitist and intellectual project, defined primarily by its belligerence, exceptionalism and (Straussian) secrecy. Koffler comes up with this third category because he is intent on showing that neoconservatism is not a "movement" like the other two foreign policy views, and therefore cannot quite qualify as a "nationalism."

All of this is a roundabout way of saying that neoconservatism is a conspiratorialLet's not give the neocons too much creditLet's not give the neocons too much credit cabal. In Koffler's words: "an exclusively elite movement with limited membership."

That gives neoconservative foreign policy too much credit. Intellectual and elitist movements (even conspiracies) usually have some kind of identifiable structure to them. Yet, neoconservative foreign policy, since 2001, has been a morass of empty slogans and ambiguous declarations. It has been an idea in construction. It was never settled on where it was going. It was for this reason that it put forward nebulous ideas like "terror" and "axis of evil" and "doctrine of integration" and "with us or against us." If anything, neoconservatism is the 21st century version of 19th century nativism, the 1920s Red Scare and 1950s McCarthyism --- yet another instance of America panicking in the face of a global encounter.

We know this because before 9/11, and before being elected President, the Bush foreign policy shop had said that that they would not focus on international humanitarianism as Clinton had done (I believe this was in Rice's Foreign Affairs article in 2000). Yet, after 9/11, humanitarianism --- in the form of "nation-building" --- was the first thing out of the neoconservatives' mouths (which as Ahmed Rashid points out they then botched). No rhyme, no reason. That's why one day Bush was talking about Islamofascists and the next acknowledging that the term wasn't accurate, why one day we were entering Iraq because of WMD and the next day because of Saddam's links with Al-Qaeda. That's why one day we were declaring war on all state-sponsors of terror and the next day we were hobnobbing with Saudi Arabia.

Now, nearly every faction ---- from neo-conservatives to liberal hawks to libertarians (like Koffler) --- objects to understanding neoconservative foreign policy as inherently devoid of any content. Neoconservatives themselves reject this idea because they think it smacks of confusion, and my, it couldn't be that they had no idea what they were doing. Liberal hawks reject it because they feel extra guilty for being duped by a movement that had no idea what it was doing. People like Koffler reject this reading because in order to justify their preferred projects it is more effective to demonize neoconservatives as a cabal than to recognize them as people who had little idea of what to do when thrust into Hillary Clinton's 3 AM scenarios.

As much as I'd like to believe that neoconservatism was a conspiracy that broke out after 9/11, the more reasonable explanation is that the people we had in charge were utter incompetents who, when confronted by the world coming to their shores, didn't know what to do, so they did everything under the sun. Pre-emptive war? Yes, we do that! Humanitarian war? We do that too! 100 years war? That too! Nation-building? Sure, why not! Empire? Fuck yeah! (as a Bush advisor told Ron Suskind in slightly different terms). War on terror? Check! World War IV? If we include Iran, yeah baby!

The fact is, and as pitiable as it sounds, on 9/11 America got hit in the head with a mallet, and rather than taking a moment to get a sense of who we were, our government started behaving like a punch drunk boxer.

Neoconservatism foreign policy is 21st century American hyperventilation. It is panic, and panic is a far worse characteristic in a government than institutional corruption. People like Koffler who actually oppose neoconservatism shouldn't give it historiographical credit.



 

ThorsProvoni


Jabontinsky's Grandchildren

The Real Origins of Neocons

Russian Lies: Shadow of Jabotinksy
by Joachim Martillo (ThorsProvoni@aol.com)
Philip Weiss reviews They Knew They Were Right: The Rise of the Neocons, by Jacob Heilbrunn in
The Long Fuse to the Iraq War in The American Conservative.
Phil summarizes Heilbrunn as follows.
Neoconservative ideas might have been confined to small magazines, but the neocons stunned themselves in the 1970s by gaining traction in American political life—through the offices of Washington Sen. Henry Jackson (whom a Saudi ambassador called "more Jewish than the Jews"). With Jackson's support, the neocons staged their first great victory, pressuring the Soviet Union to free Jews. After Daniel Patrick Moynihan won his New York Senate seat with "strong Jewish support" in 1976, the neocons had a second home.

The initial Neocon focus on the Soviet Union is suggestive, for Neoconservatism despite the claim of Schachtmanite origins is just the latest face of American Jabotinskianism, and Neocons naturally returned to Jabotinsky's home base in order to score a theoretically easy victory.
What did they win?
J.J. Goldberg points out the following in Jewish Power, Inside the American Jewish Establishment, p. 173.
Once the Soviets scrapped their deal with Kissinger, they never made any attempt to meet the emigration benchmark and win most-favored-nation rights. In Washington, no one tried to repeal the Stevenson amendment, which might have made a Jackson waiver more enticing to the Soviets. The two laws remained on the books throughout the remainder of the U.S.-Soviet Cold War, symbols of ideological purity turned brittle. They constituted an impossible hurdle to trade between the two superpowers. Soviet Jewish emigration continued to rise and fall over the years, but solely as a matter of Soviet whim, reflecting Kremlin perceptions of U.S.-Soviet relations. Western bargaining power had been eliminated.

Richard Perle and company were learning the art of manipulation and subversion that became so useful later. The actual results were of lesser importance.
The Soviet Refusenik drama showed some interesting gaps in American Zionist control. Russian Jews preferred to come to the USA, and the organized Jewish community helped them. Such assistance created a conflict, which was never fully resolved until the Soviet Union collapsed, and Soviet Jews seized upon Zionist identity as an alternative to the Soviet identity with which they had been reasonably happy despite the claims of Soviet Jewish activists in the USA.
The sudden transmutation of Soviet Jewish identity reverberated in the USA where American Russian Jews suddenly discovered Zionism. Today the David Project and similar organizations have large outreach and education programs targeting Russian American Jews, and many of the most extreme and racist anti-Muslim Israel advocates in the USA have Russian Jewish origins.





courtneyme109


Neoism

Mostly incorrect. Neoism is a way of looking at the world. Essentially - like "Which one of these is not like the other?"

As Leo Strauss pointed out relativism (and realpolitik too) shared a dangerously retarded "easy going belief that all points of view are equal (hence none really worth passionate argument, deep analysis or stalwart defense) and then into the strident belief that anyone who argues for the superiority of a distictive moral insight, way of life, or human type is somehow elitist or antidemocratic and hence immoral."

Douglas Murray's essential "Neoconservatism and why we need it" helps too.

"Broadly, neoconservatives would agree on the fact that liberal, democratic values constitute the most desirable end-point of human political striving - that accountability of the government to the people is not a luxury but something to be fought for. Much of this we would share with contemporary liberals. What differentiates the neocon from the modern-day liberal is the unanimously-held neoconservative belief that force can be used for the good, and that force should be used, where appropriate, to stand up for liberal-democratic values.

Many conservatives agree with the occasional necessity of the use of force, but don’t agree with neoconservatives on using force to carry out regime-change or intervene in situations where a government is abusing its people. So neoconservatives stand at a curious place in the middle of the political debate – not to the far-sides of it as is often alleged, but rather in the middle, making common cause with lots of people for often differing reasons.

For left and right, neoconservatism has laid down the case which needs answering. Ideologically it has few competitors and there is no school that unifies people from such a wide range of the political spectrum. That said, we might have to avoid flaunting the term around for a while. There’s no doubt that the willful misrepresentations and misunderstanding of what neoconservatism is, as well as the desire to pin the strategic mistakes made in Iraq on the neocons have combined to blacken the term.

What matters is that the case for democracy and universal rights as well as the refutation of the lies and misunderstandings of our enemies – at home and broad – continues. Most people who engage in this will not call themselves neoconservatives. Many of them will not realize that is what they are. That is fine. What matters is that the case is made – unashamedly, unapologetically and by as many people as possible."

Key texts that neo's often use to make a killer case are Tony Blair's "Universal Values of the Human Spirit", Condoleezza Rice's "Non negotiable Demands of Human Dignity" and David Milliband's "Democratic Imperatives"

Your conclusion is totally incorrect.

sincerely,

CoUrTnEy

 http://greatsatansgirlfriend.blogspot.com/

http://www.neoconstant.com/164/douglas-murray/

 





David Kelsey


They were plotting before

Ali,

 A lot of this stuff was planned to some degree long before 9/11. Seth Lipsky was palling around with Ahmed Chalabi in the late 90s. Making Iraq a democracy--and opining that said democracy would be buddies with Israel--was not a post 9/11 phenomenon. Selling the war as making the Middle East safer for Israel was something that facilitated the sale of war to the hawkish-Left, at least for important Jews in that camp. 

The Neocons were naive, no doubt -- but they were equally arrogant, and seeking an opening for their full-proof agenda.





frankenjew20817


I'd like to mention here an

I'd like to mention here an excellent documentary called "The Power of Nightmares," which was produced by the BBC -- it explores the parallels between the intellectual development between the neocon movement and the radical Islamists. Fascinating.





Anonymous


Neocon = fascist

If anyone wants to examine the movement more closely, the US neocons appear to be most closely related to the European fascist leaders of the 1920s and 30s. Their brand of ultranationalism, fear of foreigners, admiration of the corporate elite, restricting democracy, boosting of the military and militarism are all hallmarks of both movements. And, if one delves even deeper, you can see clear relationships between the US neocons and the Young Turk party of Turkey, whose descendants continue to exert a stranglehold on that country. No surprise that many of Turkey's biggest supporters in the US are the neocons, who also actively deny the Armenian genocide and are frequently on the Turkish payroll. There's a word for people like this: scumbag.