American Jewish Committee: First Half of 20th Century Was So Long Ago, Who Knows Whether Genocides Took Place? |
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by Joey Kurtzman, February 22, 2008 |
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I've been sent a recording and transcript of a public exchange that took place yesterday between Barry Jacobs of the American Jewish Committee and Aram
Barry Jacobs of the American Jewish Committee: Don't talk to him about "genocide denial," he's a pragmatist Hamparian of the Armenian National Committee. It happened at a Washington, DC lecture on Israeli-Turkish relations.
Hamparian takes Jacobs and the AJC to task for its participation in the world's most successful campaign of genocide denial, i.e. Turkey's campaign to deny the systematic murder of over a million Armenians during World War I. (For those tuning in late, The Armenian Genocide was the prototypical genocide in that it compelled Raphael Lemkin, the Polish-Jewish lawyer who coined the term "genocide," to seek ways to criminalize the mass-slaughter of whole communities. The AJC has abetted its denial by actively supporting Turkish efforts to prevent recognition of the genocide.)
Jacobs responds by suggesting that the AJC can't hope to say whether the genocide took place, because, jeez, World War I was so long ago! Then he swiftly non sequiturs to the very different argument that it's bad to acknowledge past genocides unless it makes good geopolitical sense. And then he adds that that's not just the position of the AJC, but also the position of "the Jewish community."
Well, all I can say is that whoever Barry Jacobs is talking about when he refers to "the Jewish community," their positions are morally bankrupt and a public disgrace to American Jews.
Transcript below.
Aram Hamparian, Executive Director of the Armenian National Committee of America: Your efforts to score points in Ankara at the expense of the Armenian Genocide issue is a transparent transaction that, I think, squanders the moral capital of the Jewish community, undermines our collective efforts to fight Holocaust denial, and, if the ADL [Anti-Defamation League] experience of the last few months is any indication, is very far outside of the mainstream of your own community, and it's just so painful to come and hear you echo those same themes again. I just had to share that with you.
Barry Jacobs, Director of Strategic Studies of the American Jewish Committee:
It's not about the position of the American Jewish Committee and the American Jewish community. It's not about, we are not historians, which is a polite, bullshit way of saying we're not going to take responsibility, we are not going to make a decision on 1915. But the relationship between United States and Turkey, if we want to, I don't know where you are, whether you are right or left, if you're left in the United States and want to get out of Iraq, well, look you at the map, Brits have pulled out of Basra, there are only two ways to get out of Iraq, you have to go south, you have to go north, and if you go north you got to go through Turkey.
So the argument that finally persuaded Congress, and I know this is not – I'm looking for a strong enough word – [unintelligible] but, the message was that the bilateral relationship between the United States and Turkey will suffer greatly if this resolution is passed. The Jewish Community believed that also, and that's been our position. And the world is not made up of choices between good and bad, at least not in the Foreign Service when I was in it, it's made up between choices between bad and worse. So we take practical positions, and the position of all the Jewish organizations, including ADL, was not have a position on the facts of what happened, or not taking a public position on what happened in 1915, we did not think, do not think, that the United States Congress is the place to settle this.
And that's all I can tell you. And that's the real world and that's the position of United States Government and of the Government of Israel.
In a comment below, Pilisopa says "The AJC's and ADL's behavior is a reflection of what their membership will tolerate."
Unfortunately, that's the truth. All this will continue until enough members and donors call up these orgs and say, "Please don't waste your time calling me, or mailing me anything, or requesting my donations or support, until you've made the decision to stop supporting this campaign of genocide denial."
For that to happen, we need more people in the Jewish community to understand very clearly what's going on here. I sincerely hope and believe that the March 6 event at UCLA can help make this happen. But we'll see. -- Joey
Anonymous
More Jews need to speak out and publicly engage AJC and other abetters of Genocide denial. It is a disgrace that such a large and otherwise respected organization tarnishes the morality of an entire people.
Steve
Saul
This same issue poisoned the well for the ADL last year when they tried to deny the Armenian genocide. I am quite confidant that the leadership of AJC is either ill informed or in the pocket of the Turkish government. Denying the armenian genocide only emboldens the neo nazis to continue their campaign to deny the holocaust. We are bad stewards of the memory of the Holocaust and insult our ancestors when we make our moral decisions so shamelessly.
Z,
Hamparian and ANCA thugs have guts to accuse AJC and Barry Jacobs! ANCA spend plenty of money to fund ethic cleansing and murder of Azerbaijanis in Karabakh. Thumbs up to Barry Jacobs! Thumbs up for truth.
Taline
It is it with great disappointment that I note Barry Jacobs' hypocrisy in support of the continued denial of the Armenian Genocide. It is quite unbelievable that a representative of victims of Genocide can perpetrate Genocide denial. It's shameful really.
Levon B.
I want to thank Joey for bringing this to everyone's attention and inform readers that a panel discussion will take place on March 6th at UCLA regarding this very topic. Jewcy's very own Joey Kurtzman, the ANCA's Aram Hamparian, Dr. David Meyers, Director of the UCLA Jewish Studies Program, and Dr. Richard Hovannisian, the AEF Chair of Modern Armenian History will participate in "Facing Denial, the Last Stage of Genocide". The panel discussion will take place in UCLA's Moore 100 at 6:30pm.
Further information is available online at http://www.arfshant.org/facing_denial.html
Anonymous
Let"s see:
The Armenian organizations to these Jewish organizations: Recognize the Armenian genocide -- or else...(we harrass, boycott, etc.)
Turkish government to these Jewish organizations: Don't recognize the Armenian genocide -- or else...(Israel/ US/ Turkey relations will suffer, the Jewish community in Turkey may suffer)
There is no doubt that what happened to the Armenians during WWI was genocide, but the tactics on both sides of this issue towards AJCommittee, ADL, AIPAC, etc. are nothing short of blackmail.
Why are all of these Armenian organizations so focused on these Jewish groups? The idea that they have such a profound influence I think plays into alot of negative stereotypes about Jews. If anyone should be under pressure, it is the members of Congress, especially those who initially said that they would support the resolution this summer, and then for some reason changed their minds.
And to call any of these Jewish groups genocide DENIERS is completely false. They are not denying what happened, only what it is called - and we know it's for political reasons. The ADL came around sort of. The AJC and others will too.
MichaelB
Mr Jacobs denial of the Armenian Genocide because it supposedly "took place so long ago how could we posssibly know what happened" is utterly naive,immature and downright sad
Dan Garwood
The ADL didn't speak for me when they claimed support of "the Jewish Community" for their position on the Armenian Genocide and the AJC doesn't now.
ChevyNazi
As a gentile who strongly supports Israel and the Jewish people this type of news makes my heart sink.:-(
Alamity
Is "Facing Denial, the Last Stage of Genocide" panel discussion event open to the general public to attend?
Alamity
Barry Jacobs of the American Jewish Committee, just as his doppelganger, Abe Foxman of the Anti Defemation League, shamelessly, use their infinite wisdumb by doing "cost-benefit analysis" (CBA) of genocide denial.
The ADL's and AJC's weigh-scaling approach to decision-making on genocidal matters are, at last count, up to par with Ahmadinejad's standards. Congratulations Mr. Jacobs on your prophetic comments! I'll have to agree with you, when you say: The world is not made up of choices between good and bad...but, choices between bad and worse. In case you're wondering Mr. Jacobs, Ahmadenijad might just as well rank bad on this moral scale,whereas, you rank 6-million-Holocaust-victim times worse; Furthermore, I know for a fact that the vast majority of the Jewish community, are not students of your groupthink madrasah.Incidentally, NO Holocaust victim would have wanted of their posterity to grow up to be torchbearers for Turkish deniers -- No matter what the price.
Interestingly enough, Mr. Jacobs is also in dire need of a new compass -- not just the moral kind, mind you. This is what he said: I don't know where you are, whether you are right or left, if you're left in the United States and want to get out of Iraq, well, look you
at the map, Brits have pulled out of Basra, there are only two ways to get out of Iraq, you have to go south, you have to go north, and if you go north you got to go through Turkey. It is obvious that Mr. Jacobs Prefers in making three left turns to one right turn in his convoluted logic just to derail the acknowledgment of the Armenian Genocide, as his organization has repeatedly done in the past and present, and, will probably continue to do so in the future as well. ( The blood money must be awfully good). Yes, I know, north of Iraq is Turkey, -- Aka, Armenian ancestral land, but, we will leave it at that -- but what's that got to do with The Armenian Genocide that was perpetrated way before the time of George W's wild goose chase hunt for WMD in Iraq.
Finally, These runaway organizations have done irreparable damage already. We need, new leaders, new blood, and new mission statement that reflects our core moral values.
Madeleine
Interesting times:
The new argument of these leaders will be soon, that acknowledgment of the armenian genocide is antisemitism. Is Mr Barry Jacobs the speaker of the white house or pentagon? NO. So what is he talking about?
The AJC is a racist organisation, which agree to exterminate people for geopolitical interests. Barry Jacobs is a new Hitler!!
pilisopa
The AJC's and ADL's behavior is a reflection of what their membership will tolerate. If there was a sincere backlash not necessarily from the Jewish community as a whole (who, according to my own experience, views their position as deplorable), but from those involved in each organization, their position would change. It is the absence, from within, of this unwavering and honest distaste for these organizations' genocide denial that perpetuates their complicity.
Joey Kurtzman
Phantom
As a member of the Armenian community, I'm watching intently for any sign of a backlash/movement against the ADL or the AJC. So far, the movement within the "Jewish community" against the ADL has been mostly limited to this website and its readers, and certainly doesn't seem to have made any waves worthy of raising eyebrows among the leaders of these Jewish organizations. Of course, this Barry Jacobs, a Genocide Denier, can say these things with confidence now; he has no fear of repurcussions from the Jewish community. As for the Armenian community, he could care less what we think; we don't own any media outlets of any consequence to make him choke on his own words.
Levon B.
In response to a question above, yes, the panel is open to the public and free of charge. More information is available at http://www.arfshant.org/facing_denial.html.
Outraged
What "truth" is Z talking about? You can't change the subject and forget about the real issue here. The AJC is backing up a state that denies the first genocide of the 20th century, and what is worth, defending that state for doing so!!!
Granted the war in Karabakh has been a sad development in the history of the post-soviet republics of the Caucasus, you must be out of your mind to compare the war for self-determination of the Armenians of Karabakh, to the methodical attempt of the ailing Ottoman Empire, and the "modern" Turkish Republic, to exterminate an entire nation. Shame on you.
Hasmig
As an Armenian partnered and raising children with a Jew, the above news is very distressing. I care less about Barry Jacobs and more about the impression other Armenians who are not familiar with Jews will walk away with. Every Jew I know has been a staunch ally of the Armenian Genocide recognition and many of the educational organizations (Teaching Tolerance, Facing History) who have been advocating for the inclusion of the Armenian Genocide in World History classes are led by Jewish educators. I was glad to see that many of the bloggers here already know that one powerful Jew does not represent the rest, but it seems this is the choir to whom we have all preached. Just as many Jews will come out fervently against this man's political bias, so should Armenians stand confidently side by side our Jewish allies and trust that we mostly share goals of social justice for all and a world where the recognition of a tragic history is the first step towards empowering our future.
Olnar Golzuk Sictir
I wonder how the AJC would react on the opposite end of this issue.
"And that's the real world?" - Wow, you have to be kidding me. The hutzpah to say something like this. Mr. Jacobs, where do you get off?
Was it not the U.S. government who helped the Jews receive reparations after the Holocaust? For a people who have rose up from being completely wiped out because of the the world's sympathy and support, you, Mr. Jacobs are so self-centered and backstabbing as to turn the cheek, or even worse, actively oppose the Armenian people's fight to rest the souls of their ancestors.
Unbelievable. What can I say? It's a shame that such self-serving, arrogant people exist.
Kuwait
I absolutely agree with MichaelB; it is tremendously sad to hear such a statement!
We all are aware that the denial is for political purpose, but again, no Armenian should accept the genocide denial till Turkey admits its actions. Turkey in invaded Iraq last week killing Kurds! History may repeat itself all over again..!
Ilya
"Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formation in readiness — for
the present only in the East — with orders to them to send to death
mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish
derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?"
Adolf Hitler
Mr. Jacobs,
World War I was so long ago, but jeez, World War II was so long ago too! Should we maybe forget all those wars and all those genocides and move on ... to ... World War III perhaps; because we just didn't learn from I and II?
Anonymous
The enablers of genocide denial should be ashamed of themselves.
Very sad to think they have reason to take such a position.
Get some respect for the death of millions, have respect for humanity.
Jeffrey Monheit
I am with my (Orthodox/Apostolic/Antiochian) Christian brothers and completely support a return of all lost lands which are now occupied by Turkey. Freedom to Pontos, freedom to Constantinople, freedom to Smyrna, freedom to Cappadocia, freedom to western Armenia, etc. These lands were stolen by Mustafa Kemal Ataturk (half-Jew) and his leader Young Turk (crypto-Jewish) cohorts, all planned in the Grand Orient Free Masonic Lodge (in Salonika, Greece). It was all a Zionist plot to take over the Ottoman Empire, to destroy the Armenian intellegencia which was keeping the Ottoman Empire intact, thus the genocide occured, all to eventually create a Zionist state of "Israel" in 1948. True much of the Middle East went under British control after the genocide, but eventually the Zionist network in America made a deal with the British to defeat the Nazis and win the war for Britain in exchange for Palestine becoming a homeland for the Jews (Balfour Declaration). Let's not forget the Rothschild family aiding Hitler and Nazis rise to power, which was part of the plan to kill Jews in Europe to give an excuse that Jews must now have a homeland in Palestine. Even more shocking is that the vast majority of people who call themselves "Jews" today of Ashkenazi descent are in fact not descended of the 12 Hebrew Tribes but are really descendants of a tribe of Turko-Finnic people known as the Assin people. Rabbis of Persia or Spain tricked these proud Assin people into believing they were a lost tribe of Hebrews (tribe of Benjamin I believe). Originally what was responsible for this was the Khazar king's conversion to Judaism. Jews though evolved appearance wise since they took on servants of other white Cental Asian tribes (Slavs, Celts, etc.) who eventually married into their families and that's why they look different today than they did in their inception. By the way, Ashkenazi Jews have no right to claim Israel as THEIR land as they never had ancestors who lived there! Palestinians are among the true inhabitants and need to reclaim their lost lands too. Yes, I was born a Jew. By the way, Barry Jacobs and AJC, speak for yourselves you deceivers! You didn't fool every Jew and your position is not the position of authentic Jews either! Also, learn about The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. They speak about the Zionist planned New World Order and how they are able to control the masses. These are not fake and racist documents as claimed. They first were uncovered in France.
Shadakh
As an Armenian who lost his Grandmother, Grandfather, Aunts and Uncles during the slaughter took place in Van by Young Turkish Empire, call for Justice. Jews Leaders who denied Jesus, today, they will deny Armenian Genocide too. What counts for a rich Jew is money and profite.I call all Jews to think over and show their moral responsibility. STOP counting your Cents! STOP backing murderers ! What happened to Armenians will happen again to any other nation also to Jews again.
Shalom.
Anonymous
An interesting point that I noticed, that no member of Congress denied the Genocide. They just did not want to call it by that name, AT THIS TIME. What I concluded was that the Armenian Genocide is kept as a stick by Washington to be used upon Ankara whenever needed.
Armenians need not care how USA or Israel describe the massacres of 19th century and the Genocide of early 20th century - or what they call them. However, as an American, I am ashamed of my government to use (misuse?) the solid and indisputable historical fact as a stick to manipulate the Turks. It is against our principles. It is unjust. It is plainly wrong! Why should we tolerate crime - The statute of limitation does not apply to genocide. The time of occurrence is irrelevant; it is still a crime. It is about time that we formally recognize and call it by its name: Genocide. The Turks must face with their past as well.
Anonymous
The Armenian community is interested in what the Jewish community has to say because when the Holocaust occured, Armenians were one of the first to not only accept what had happened, but also to took action against it, hence Israel. The Holocaust only happened because nobody cared about the First Genocide of the 20th Century. That is why Armenians are interested in the Jewish Community's opinions.
Also, on the issue between Armenians and Azeris. That was not a genocide, it was war, a war that the Azeris started by raping, mutilating and killing Armenians in Azerbaijan. Armenia only responded by defending itself when its borders were compromised.
And for anyone who is wondering, no I am not Armenian, I just take the time and bother of reading and researching, unlike others.
Alexander
Among Armenians the concept of anti-Semitism was virtually non-existent a few years back. In fact, the opposite was (and is) true – Jewish people suffered as badly as the Armenians did only a few years earlier. When certain well-known Jewish organizations and Lobbying Groups decided to pretend that the Armenian Genocide was something less-than- fundamental, outsiders (financed by Turkish government), have started to carefully spread anti-Semitic feelings within vulnerable Armenians groups. The plan was to create new breed of obnoxious people based on the ignorance and hate. It may’ve worked at first only on a very primitive level and only with uneducated class. Armenians quickly realized that this was all a well-orchestrated plan to isolate the Armenians nation from the Jewish people by creating a mutually hateful atmosphere. It didn’t work – Armenians know that most Jews understand what the real meaning of Genocide is, and Armenians are well aware that some confused or perhaps corrupted Jewish organizations indeed may take a working stance on this issue, but it’s not going to create a nation of Jew-haters. Turks massacred and killed some 2 million Armenians – it is an undeniable and verifiable fact, so if a group of people of Jewish faith wants to deny that fact for some sickly justified reason, based on their own conviction, the eventual justice will be a lot more convicting than any of us can possibly imagine.
Anonymous
It is Jewish People like Barry Jacobs who stimulate anit-semitism. What is good for the Jewish People is too good for anyone else. It is fine to defend the Jewish Genocide but claim ignorance to any other genocide, and why, for money from the Turks. When others deny the Jewish Genocide he is up in arms but when one denies the first genocide of the 20th century, he claims it was too long ago to know what happened.
Luckily, I am not anti-semitic and know that Mr. Jacobs does not represent the entire Jewish Population. But is the responsibility of the Jewish people to stand up and condemn Mr. Jacob's statements, otherwise other individuals will believe that he is speaking their word.
Anonymous
My jewish feinds see their perversion. As an Armenian who is educated in this affair we should realize we do not need Israel or their resources-we need the oil and the arab territories as it is in our interest. Some of our intellectuals will say the Jews (proven) did in fact support massacre and genocide (banking and other) and even today the turks remind the Jews of the their plight and existence in their empire. Well- lets say the Nazi did not do anything different to them as the dam turks back then did to us. Lets not understand why we here in our great USA die for them over there and never should we call their plight a genocide-they think they are unique and alone-they are not. This is the USA and not the USA-ISRAEL that we will destroy-lose if we listen to them or believe them. USA-we must STOP SENDING OUR TROOPS AND MONEY TO THESE EVIL JERKS in ISRAEL AND SUPPORTING THEM HERE AS they say we were not subjected to massacre. My jewish friends agree-we were massacred and so were they. THe JDL and these Jews-we could care less about what you think-you will not survive or be liked and anti semitism grows more with each stupid word. get rid of your genocide memorials here in Boston and lesewhere -we do nto want them-we want them GONE
Anonymous
WHY DO WE SUPPORT THE CALL FOR THE JEWISH GENOCIDE-IT NEVER HAPPENED,. HITLER AND THE POGROMS WERE ONLY AN ATTEMPT TO WIPE OUT A FEW PEOPLE THEY DID NOT WANT IN THEIR TERRITORIES. HEY=USA-WE DO NOT WANT THEM HERE EITHER AND WE SHOULD NOT SUPPORT THEM NOR ALLOW THEM TO BE EDUCATED. GET RID OF THEM TOO!!!!!
MAYBE THEY WILL UDNERSTAND THEIR OWN TONGUE FROM US. GET RID OF THEM-WE DO NTO LIKE THEM HERE!!!! YEAH RIGHT- ONLY THE BASTAHDS SUPPORTRED THE GUNS OF THE GERMANS AND THE TURKS. THIS GENERATION OF JEWISH INTELLECTUALS ARE FOOLING YOU=THROW THEM OUT-SEND THEM TO RUSSIA OR TO FIGHT IN IRAQ-WHY ARE WE THERE
Anonymous
You are one clueless individual.
Anonymous
The Armenian genocide is not just an Armenian issue. It's a global issue. It's a spiritual issue. It's an invirnmental issue. It's an issue for all living things that come to being and living harmoniously on this planet! To deny it means to deny life. Yours mine and "the man in a Pacific island. This is a general denial for life as any living creature. As long as it is denied it will carry on perpetuating itself in diffirent parts and forms on this planet.
For heavens sake, clean up this mess! You are being given the opportunity to appologise and make peace. BE IN PEACE. Our planet is in grave danger. We need more than our scientists, doctors, priests and politicians to save our world.
The genocide of my people meant that I live in the whole world. To integrate with others. Arabs, Jews, French, English, Germans, Russians, Americans, Coreans, Indians. Shall I go on? People I would have otherwise missed. I gave of myself and recieved in return from the heart. Isn't this what all the religions of this world teach us?
Have some respect.......put youselves in the other person's shoes.....The Armenians haven't just suffered in two occasions there is a whole length of history behind us that no body knows about. Because it is not taught in schools.
The Armenians suffer not just because of a genocide denial. They are suffering of a global denial of their own contributions......
V C. the golden age of Armenia. Where was Europe, Where was America? Where were the Turks? Before Christianity. Who occupied Asia Minor. the silk trade route where did it go through? Who were those early Christians that lived in Turkey? Who dug tunnels and cities under the earth to protect themselves from earthquakes?
The Armenians also have the right to BE. And each generation raises his head up high and says TO BE.
My people's suffering is also yours......have some respect.....
Thank you for reading this....
Dr.Katz
As an American Jew I can say that people like Barry Jacobs of the AJC do not represent me!!!
I'll make sure that the AJC does not receive a penny from me so long as idiots like Barry Jacobs are in charge.
To say that the Massacre of the Armenians was not Genocide is equal to saying that Jewish Holocaust never happened. Holocaust deniers have long used the same excuses that the Turkish government is using to dodge the recognition of the Armenian Genocide. Shame on you Jacobs... stand up and be a man... you are a disgrace to the Jewish people.
Brigitte Gabriel
Opinions are like...noses. Everyone has one. As someone whose
life has been greatly impacted by Israel, I am an outspoken
supporter and advocate for Jewish issues and Israeli security. My
outspokenness creates a few storms now and then.
With the Internet amplifying publicly voiced opinion, comments
can be swirled around through instant e-mail communication
seeding the most dark and foreboding storm clouds. Most of the
sleet, hail and lightening I get comes from the Jewish community.
usually after I have said something extolling their virtues. Most
remarkable was my statement at a Duke University counter
Palestinian Solidarity Movement rally in 2004 where I said the
difference between Israel and the Arab world "is the difference
between civilization and Barbarism." The comment went worldwide.
The president of Hillel apologized to the Arabs and Palestinians
up one side and down the other.
I recently was asked my opinion about Barack Obama and boy what a
tempest it has caused. And this time the maligning from my Hebrew
friends comes for pointing out that a presidential candidate has
deeply troubling connections to an anti-Semite? So?
The adverse precipitation came last week from the United Jewish
Communities (UJC), who took strong exception to my answering
question posed by a woman about Barrack Obama. The UJC's
published comments headlined by some as "slamming" Brigitte
Gabriel, cast doubt on my legitimacy and my efforts to support
the Jewish nation and fight the rise of Islamofascism. I think
you will find, as others have commented to me, that they are
doing a disservice to one of Judaism's ally in its fight as a
people and Israel as a nation.
Here are the facts.
I was honored to be the guest speaker at the West Palm Beach Lion
of Judah's luncheon on February 4th in Florida. My presentation,
like many I have given to Jewish Federations in both Canada and
the US, as well as countless non Jewish organizations and
churches, focused on the humanitarian qualities of Israel who
rescued my family and other Christians from the Jihad against us
by Muslim extremists in civil war torn Lebanon. I warned the
audience about the rise of Islamofascism throughout the world and
here in America. I encouraged them to get involved, support the
Lion of Judah and make a difference. The 350 women present gave
me a standing ovation. After lunch and the Q&A they bought up
every available copy of my New York Times best seller, "Because
They Hate." I felt no hostility or heard any derogatory remarks
during the greetings and exchanges of encouragement given me
while signing 200 books.
That was the good part.
It was during the Q&A that a woman asked my opinion as to whether
or not Obama was anti-Semitic, her words. Knowing how sensitive
political issues are considering my audience, I prefaced my
answer by saying, "I want to make something very clear before I
answer this question. I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat. I
am an independent who came to this country as a fresh slate and
was not raised in a home in America that influenced me to vote
either Republican or Democrat. So my answer to you will be as a
terrorism expert and not as someone who is trying to influence
you about any party." I then repeated what I had said at a
similar Federation event in Boca Raton the previous week.
I discussed Obama's long association with the controversial Rev.
Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. of the Southside Chicago Trinity United
Church. Obama has frequently referred to Wright as his 'spiritual
adviser'. Wright has peculiar Black Racist, anti-Israel,
anti-Semitic views. Wright's Church magazine, The Trumpet, has
honored Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan, promoted
anti-Israel divestment efforts, and visited Libyan strongman,
Mummar Ghaddafi.
My view is supported by the following facts:
The Trumpet honored Minister Farrakhan at a banquet for his
devotion to "truth." The magazine quoted Obama's "spiritual
mentor," Rev. Wright, as praising Farrakhan for his "astounding
and eye-opening" analysis of the "racial ills of this nation," a
"perspective" that is "helpful and honest."
Minister Farrakhan, who regularly calls Jews "bloodsuckers," said
in a March, 2007 Al Jazeera interview
"The real anti-Semites are those who came out of Europe and
settled in Palestine, and now they call themselves the true Jews,
when in fact, they converted to Judaism."
On January 15th, Senator Obama publicly distanced himself from
the comments of Minister Farrakhan. Obama asserted:
"I decry racism and anti-Semitism in any form and strongly
condemn the anti-Semitic statements by Minister Farrakhan."
Even with Obama disavowing the Farrakhan award by his Church's
magazine I take great exception that he did not take the ultimate
step of leaving Pastor Wright's church and continuously supports
him.
I appreciate what ADL executive director Foxman said in an
interview with the Jewish Week:
'This must be just a first step. He's distanced himself from his
pastor's decision to honor Farrakhan. He has not distanced
himself from his pastor. I think that's the next step. One can
now expect from Sen. Obama that he confront his minister.
Ultimately, said Foxman, if Obama is unable to influence Wright
to alter his stands, I think he has an obligation to leave."
Conveniently, about the same time in January, Rev. Wright
announced his 'retirement' from his Trinity Church pulpit in May
of this year.
My opinion as to Obama having anti-Semitic views and
characteristics is further influenced by the fact that Mr. Obama
employed and still employs Nation Of Islam members and Farrakhan
followers on his staff; his positions on the Israeli security
fence; his comments on Yasser Arafat.
Coming from a highly sensitive viewpoint concerning the future
and safety of Israel in a sea of worldwide anti-Israel bias,
propaganda and media negativity, I see no difference between
anti-Semitic and anti Israel. I see them both in the same. To
your western ears, anti-Semitic may seem a harsher term by which
it appears I am being judged.
In my opinion actions speak louder than words. It is important to
watch what people do instead of what they say because talk is
very cheap especially when you are raising funds and running for
president! We are who we associate with. If Obama did not agree
with his pastor he wouldn't be praising him as his mentor. There
are very troubling things in Obama's past, present and his
affiliations that he must answer and clarify. However that is
just a relative issue compared to the real concern about Obama's
wanting to meet with the avowed Holocaust denying enemy of
Israel, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to address his
"grievances."
My remarks in both Boca Raton and Palm Beach are my own and
while not representing the views or policies of the Federations
should not be used to malign my message of anti-Islamofascism and
pro-Israel support in the eyes of world Jewry. Shame on those who
are using the auspices of the UJC in crying foul for something
contrary to their personal politics. It is not lost on me that
Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL), whose district covers part of Palm
Beach County, is a national surrogate in the Obama campaign. So
perhaps both the Palm Beach Federation and national UJC didn't
want to appear supportive of my views because it might offend
Rep. Wexler and ultimately Sen. Obama.
The JTA article quoted me as saying: "Obama was an anti-Semite.
No Jews should support him. Jews should vote for Hillary
Clinton." These sentences, which appear as a direct quote, are
simply a sloppy cut and paste job of statements I made about
Obama and Clinton at two different events.
Were my criticisms of Sen. Obama off the mark? Am I raising
pertinent questions that the Jewish community needs answers to?
Witness these comments
<http://http/www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/10/opinion/edcohen.php>
from American Jewish Committee (AJC) executive director David
Harris presenting the views of South Floridians with whom he had
recently spoken concerning Obama:
What are his relations with Wright? Why does he have former
National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski (viewed as cool
toward Israel) on his foreign policy team?
Harris went on to say:
"You could sum up the concerns as 'does Obama feel Israel in his
kishkas? " Harris commented using the Yiddish word for guts. "And
does he have the steel and spine for the tough moments or believe
diplomacy is the be-all and end-all of international relations?"
Such worries have surfaced in Israel, where Danny Ayalon, a
former ambassador to the United States, has described Obama's
candidacy as cause for "concern."
I am concerned as well. What should have been a positive outcome
to my appearance at the West Palm Beach Federation event has been
yanked from the hands of the local federation's control and
spread as a negative across the world. From 350 attendees to
millions. Now even more can continue asking the questions I and
director Harris have raised. Meanwhile the topic has been
converted into a slanderous campaign against me by certain
factions of the left wing of the Jewish press. In effect, a
messenger in support of Israel is being unfairly and gratuitously
maligned for my straightforwardness. I have and will always have
my antennae up about issues that may adversely affect Israel and
homeland security.
Since 2003 I have done much to support Israel: speaking at Duke
on the Eve of the Palestinian solidarity convention, speaking at
Columbia concerning problems by Arab professors against Jewish
students, going on television defending Israel during the war
between Hezbollah and Israel, creating and mobilizing a national
grass roots organization to stand with and defend Israel, and
writing a New York Times best seller, the first one by an Arab
pro Israel changing hearts and minds of non Jews and gathering
support for Israel throughout the world.
To let all the above go unnoticed; to bad mouth and condemn
someone who is laying her life on the line while Israel has few
friends; and to stand up and support the Jewish people is such a
shame. And being "slammed" is the return I get simply because
someone asked for my personal opinion about Obama?
I am glad to say that since this Obama brouhaha, I have received
three different invitations from Jewish organizations across the
country in less than a week.
The Jewish leadership of the UJC and JTA went out of their way to
publicly malign the only pro Israel Arab/Terrorism Expert with
such media reach. Last year I reached over one hundred million
Americans with my pro Israel message as a non Jew, something not
one Jewish organization has even come close to.
With actions like these from the Jewish leadership is it any
wonder why the Arabs and Palestinians were able to re-write
history while the Jews failed miserably in the PR department."
---
Brigitte Gabriel is the bestselling author of "Because They
Hate", Middle East commentator and founder of American Congress
for Truth
www.americancongressfortruth.org
www.actforamerica.org
Anonymous
I am the granddaughter of an Armenian Genocide survivor and I can tell you that the slaughter was very REAL. On the basis of Barry Jacob's statement that America cannot compromise it's strategic relationship with Turkey by recognizing the Armenian Genocide, I have this to say.
America has sided with Israel's positions on everything to the detriment of our standing in the global community. We are known as the #1 terrorist nation because of it. Shouldn't we follow Jacob's logic and not align ourselves with Israel?
Anonymous
This is an interesting time and topic for Jews. Are Jews becoming so Americanized and softened by politcal convenience? Long respected since coming to Amercia as educated, thoughtful, independant thinkers and thought leaders regardless of how their positions might oppose mass thinking now here at least this particular Jewish leader and his organization babble politics and choices between bad and worse while front and center is the fact based issue that the first attempt at mass extermination of a people happened. Armenians were slaughtered by the hundreds of thousands if not over a million. It happened as real as Jews were gassed and buried alive in Nazi Germany.
Can any credible Jew or Gentile for any reason, political or otherwise ever in any way turn a blind eye from or in any way dismiss a matter such as the Armenian Genocide?
And here I tie back to my first thought. Are some Jews losing that admirable edge, that admirable quality of being unconditional champions of smart thinking, moral thinking and just thinking. As an Armenian, I would hope for and expect all Jews to support any and all efforts to recognize the Armenian Genocide. But were I a Jew and on this particular topic, I would have grave concern that perhaps this is the tip of the iceberg where Jews are beginning to lose that quality of just thinking and un-biased public positioning on humanitarian issues.
End note...Jews would NEVER tolerate Nazi Germany's post war denial of the events as they happened. And Jews and the world over demanded Nazi Germany's admission of guilt and to this day reparations are still being sought and paid. Now this gent is worried that the way out of Iraq involves Turkey and as desired the world must concede to Turkey's resistance to acknowledging the Armenian Genocide? Shameful. Turkey is coward enough. Does this leader of an important Jewish group want to be thrown into that same cowardly mix? Shameful.
Anonymous
What do you know of the Truth? How much of the truth do you know? the manipulated truth that the world sees only from out side!
Anonymous
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Anonymous
I met some of the people behind Jewcy some time ago and have to say, once again, you are a bright light for the youth of your community. In times of such shameless propaganda and cowardly real politik, it's groups like Jewcy which take a strong stand for integrity. Finally, the narrative and direction of any identity must be challenged and analyzed from within.
Peace.
Ani
Well WWII was also a long time ago. We are in the 21st century now... was it really 6 million Jews and was it really a Holocaust or just part of the war as the Turks claim about the Armenians? Hmmm I wonder what Hitler would say about it?
David Mitchell
It is difficult for me to understand why Jewish organizations are not taking this issue on, and acknowledging the Armenian Genocide. It won't be long until WWII will be "so long ago", will it then be accecptable to ignore that genocide, or that of Stalin, Pol Pot, Rwanda, Sudan? ....Jewish organizations have the most powerful ethnic lobbies in the country, please use them to support ALL people who have suffered Genocide, especially one that is less than one hundred years ago.
-David Mitchell
Michael L. Chikindas
It should be clear for everybody that the denial of Armenian Genocide by the Jewish leaders has political roots. One can find this roots in the article published by the Jewish Exponent: http://www.jewishexponent.com/article/13906/
Here is what we find in this article: "Jewish leaders warned that
recognizing the genocide, as Congress is now considering, could
undermine American strategic interests in the Middle East, and Turkey's
robust military and economic partnership with Israel. Also deemed at
risk was the security of Turkish Jewry, which sent a letter earlier
this year opposing a congressional resolution on the matter. .......
Though Jewish groups have toed a careful line on the genocide question
for years, the issue exploded last month after the town council of
Watertown, Mass. -- home to one of the country's largest Armenian
communities -- voted to sever ties with an ADL anti-bigotry program in
protest of the organization's refusal to acknowledge the genocide.
..... An outraged Turkey communicated its dismay to Israeli and Jewish
leaders, with some Turkish officials going as far as suggesting that
Israel had to "deliver" American Jewish groups on this issue." As it
follows from the mentioned publication, the newspaper obviously
supports pro-Turkish anti-Armenian forces to save Turkish Jews from
possible oppression and to not influence badly the Turkey-Israel
relations.
I am asking all honest people regardless of their religion and/or nationality to join our efforts in a fight against Genocide denialists and all kinds of political manslaughters:
http://www.gopetition.com/online/17164.html
Anonymous
Come on... "Why are all of these Armenian organizations so focused on these Jewish groups?" Because these groups could just keep silent (not that it would be morally acceptable, anyway); but no, they're actively participating in the genocide terminology suppression campaign. And, obviously, it's worse when denial-abetting is done by Jews, Armenians, Tutsis, or any other genocide victims.
annon
I'm new to this issue. Why is AJC weighing in on the Armenian Genocide? Is that within their charter?
Anonymous
Annon,
It is not a question of what is in a "charter" it is a question of recognizing human rights abuse, the ultimate of which is death on a massive scale.
Barry Jacobs co-opted denial of the Armenian genocide for a political gain. This is an abuse of human rights, and immoral.
Sadly he does not have the interest of human life, but rather enable and perpetutuate hate and destruction.
Barry Jacobs shame on you!
Anonymous
Mr. Jacobs, that is exactly what Hitler said when he was about to start the Holocaust and you are repeating his ideaology. Good Job in assuring that if enough time passes people will forget and not care that much. How would you feel if people said the same thing about the Holocaust in about 25 years from now? Turkey the "strong" ally, denied US troops access at the beginning of the war. Only when things cleared up they changed their minds...
Turkey the "stong" ally has invaded N. Iraq to go after the PKK, jeopardizing the stability of the only part of Iraq that hasn't exploded against the US troops.
If you count the acts of terror Turks have committed and compare it to others in Europe, you can easily see that they are not what they pretend to be..."Modern, Civilized..."
If the Armenian Geonocide issue is a geopolitical issue, what geopolitical issue made the US push Germany to accept the facts of the Holocaust, something committed by another government? I tell you what it is Mr. Jacobs, it simply is the truth and shame on you for having memory lapses and being bought by the Turks. How much would it take to buy you? Maybe we can get a fund raising going. By the way, a very large number of members of the Jewish community are against your "reasoning" or lack of it for that matter...
Josh Weinstein
It saddens me what a world we live in when moral issues have been denied for so long and for what?? "GEOPOLITICAL ISSUES?!" I am just ashamed right now! what if the Armenian Genocide was recognized worldwide and the Holocaust was the event that was fighting to be recognized. There are a lot of things that Israel has done that is almost the equivalent to a systematic killing so don't anybody talk on Armenia's fight with Karabagh_Nagorno. We need to open our eyes and ACCEPT the Armenian Genocide. That is the only way we will evolve as a people and put an end to the cycle of Genocide whether its the Armenian Genocide or the Genocide in Darfur...
Anonymous
Please educate yourself on FACTS before you shoot your ignorant mouth off... don't bring any more shame on our community......
Lucy
With the same success Armenian community can highly doubt if NAZIs kiled the jews or the jews killed themselves for political reasons. That's more than possible KNOWING THE JEWS!
Anonymous
Well, it upsets me too. I am neither Armenian nor Jewish, however we need to stop the cycle of genocides. If don't accept the first genocide which is Armenian genocide, what's the point?