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The Jewish Meat: Noah Bernamoff of Mile End |
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by Jason Diamond, March 11, 2010 |
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When historians look back on 2010 Brooklyn, they will uncover dozens of
articles on the phenom that is the Mile End Delicatessen, and for good
reason: owner Noah Bernamoff opened the restaurant not to cash in on the
foodie
trend, but for the simple fact
that he missed the smoked pastrami of his home to the north, Montreal.
To
say that Mile End has busted out of the gate and onto the pages of
every New York magazine that matters is an understatement,
but the Canadian restaurateur is modest about his quick success, and as
you will read in this interview, the guy really cares about the food he
makes, and the hungry Brooklynites that are fast becoming his biggest fans.
You dropped out of law school to open Mile End? Is your mother
worried?
Well, I'm technically still on a leave of absence. I
indeed left permanently or temporary to do this. I wasn't very happy
in law school, and this was something I really wanted to do for awhile,
and I suppose I felt inspired at the time. It was a bold moment perhaps,
and rather just feeling enslaved to the process that law school puts
you, or fits you into, I decided to do something I really wanted to do.
I
have a lot of friends who are either in law school or have recently
finished it, and I can't tell who seems more unhappy.
It's
not rare that I speak to a lawyer that's been practicing for 20 or 30
years that they say I wish I did what you did. Even if I do finish it's
more to feel a sense of completion. It's not my primary focus.
What
started your interest in smoked meat? Obviously it's popular in
Montreal, but was it something you've been doing your entire life, did
you have to go back home and take a class or something, was the talent
bestowed upon you in a dream?
It was born out of a loss. I
moved [from Montreal], and when you lose something, you miss something.
I was yearning from it. It's not even the same to buy some in Montreal
and just bring it back down because it just loses it's entire
character. It's not warm, it's not sliced by hand. It's the kind of
thing I did because I wanted it for myself.
Prior to moving to
Brooklyn, did you have any preconceived notions that the delicatessens
were better than they actually are?
I don't think I had any
opinions. I just did it. It's important to me, but it wasn't the do
all, end all. I wasn't born on a meat slicer. My families not at all
in the food business. It's just something that's part of my
Jewish-Montreal psyche. It's that embedded with the culture I grew up
with. But the fact that I moved into an area and there was not a single
deli that I'd ever come across is astonishing given that it's New
York. There are no delis left. The ones that are, are based off being
tourist traps...
The meat that comes out of Montreal is
different that what their making at a Katz's or 2nd Ave. Deli...
Yeah,
it's not a huge distinction, but it is a different thing. The meat is
butchered differently. It's spiced differently, cured differently.
Like a place like Schwartz's, that has the most smoked meat in Montreal,
for the reason that they are one of two delis that actually make their
own meat. It's also the vibe. There's more to the final product. It's
about dedication in Montreal, there's an authenticity to things: the
original way of doing things. The bagels speak to that too. That's one
reason why I'm a big fan of Montreal bagels is yeh, their a totally
different product, but there is a totally different philosophy to making
bagels.
Another thing I find interesting is that when the
meat runs out, you're done for the day...
We usually go a
little bit past when the meat runs out, but more or less. During the
week that's roughly around 4 o'clock, sometimes just a hair earlier, and
then on the weekends, it's typically earlier. But sometimes I'm able
to sit an extra brisket or two for the weekend, but not every time.
It
seemed like the last few years, Brooklyn has been undergoing something
of a bacon trend. Is Canadian smoked meat the next big thing?
I
love bacon. I'd be happy for the bacon trend to continue because I
just have an affinity for all food. I have a cultural love for Jewish
food. Kashrut is bogus anyway.
So now that you have your own
smoked meat place in Brooklyn, do you feel more at home?
Yes
and no. I still miss the way I was able to live in Montreal, but since
I've moved here, I've loved living in Brooklyn. Could I imagine a place
other than Brooklyn to do this? Probably not. I definitely feel at
home.
One last question, since you're a Canadian living in
New York, and the NHL regular season is coming closer to an end: have
you become a Rangers fan?
Hell no. There's no way. No
fucking way. I could be cool with the Knicks because I've never had a
team of my own, but when it comes to hockey, there's one team that has
my heart and that's the Montreal Canadians.
veganesther
Mazel tov on being able to eek out a living off the rotting carcass of a heretofore living being. There is no holiness or respect for boundries when you permitt yourself to eat everything. Kashruth isn't bogus, its just doesn't appeal to you. You would rather limit nothing to your self than follow an ancient tradition. I think bacon is bogus.
Emily Goldsher
Veganesther, I wasn't aware that Kosher meat wasn't also "the rotting carcass of a heretofore living being" -- that's amazing! There is just no limit to what God can do these days! Wow!
I would suggest, in the name of sound reasoning, that perhaps next time you separate your disdain for meat-eaters from the equation of treif = gross. It just doesn't hold up.
As for honoring something just because it is an ancient tradition, I'm pretty sure there are a lot of ancient traditions worth abandoning: ritual cannibalism, female genital mutilation, ritual incest...the list goes on.
Cheers!
veganesther
Kosher is also the rotting carcass of a living being. Judaism however limits what is permissible. We jews never practiced cannibalism, female genital mutilation ritual incest ect.... what the other nations of the world practice is different from what the framers of the tora were trying to do when shaping the behaviors of one particular group of human beings. I use the term "Framers of the Tora" to include the mindset of people who believe that the Tora was given to us at Mt. Sinai by God, in its entirety along with the oral law and to include those who believe that human beings wrote the tora with the goal towards elevating human behavior.