Eli Valley's The Incredible Hulk

Shorter Eli Valley: Jews progressive, Israel blind spot, mildest criticism stormtrooped, slippery slope to frightening rightism.

Cliché count: oh, it's right up there.

Coming from someone who hates when people make their facebook or other website ID pictures ironic or artistic.  And someone who chuckles on the inside every time he gets introduced to some twenty or thirty something hipster from Brooklyn who is "finishing his novel", I fully expectted to hate your spin on the Incredible Hulk.  Instead, I thought it was very funny.  A little obvious, but still very well done.  Kudos.  Tell Mr. Anonymous Post up there to take it easy.  I'm sure his novel about the struggles of a barista from Bushwick will be just as gripping as your epic about a frustrated web designer from Greenpoint. 

If it always the same "Anonymous" bashing Eli Valley's work, why not call yourself something unique like "EliHater"? Because I think it's always the same one guy.

 Yes, Eli's not the first to point this out, but this is certainly the most enjoyable and humorous mockary of the ZOA-types I've ever seen.

I love that he uses a mac.  Because he's a hippie.

While I enjoyed the comic, I reject Valley's implicit assertion that PBS is inherently anti-Israel.

PBS may not be Inherently anti-Israel but it is so close that the differences are meaningless. To be fair, a lot of PBS's news gathering functions are shared with the BBC so it could just be tainted fruit.

LOL!

(I didn't know Banner was a Jewish name.)

There is no implication in the comic that PBS is biased. It makes clear that labeling as biased factual reporting that paints Israel in an unfavorable light is a logical leap. The point is that Jews like Bruce Banner are so hyper-sensitive that they interpret anything short of unreserved praise for Israel as being anti-Semetic or anti-Israel.

PBS shows lots of wonderful programming about Israel -- DURING FUNDRAISING WEEK!!  They know where their bread is buttered.  It makes me so angry!  And you won't like me when I'm angry!!  (Eli, you forgot that one.)

BTW, I think when I was 20 I used to tell people "Palestinians already have a state -- Jordan!"

Dear web designer from Greenpoint, 

Despite the fact that I take offense at the implication that Bruce Banner is two-faced, I agree that PBS is anti-Semitic. Good comic. 

In the nineteenth century, Jewish anger in Central and Eastern Europe resulted mostly from the breakdown of the traditional Jewish community, the disappearance of the traditional Jewish economic sector, and a sense of thwarted entitlement.

Many Jews became highly disaffected and took part in violent revolutionary activities, terrorism and assassination or simply engaged in exploitive and ethically questionable business practices toward their non-Jewish (and sometimes their Jewish) neighbors. The Holocaust might explain some aspects of Jewish confrontational behavior, but Jewish Holocaust fixation for the most part starts in the aftermath of the 1967 Israeli War of Aggression and has steadily increased ever since. Holocaust obsession is probably a consequence of increasing Jewish confrontationalism, and, in any case, a large proportion of Russian Ashkenazim were up to their eyeballs in mass murder, ethnic cleansing, and genocide on behalf of the Bolshevik Revolution or the Soviet Union long before the mass killing of Jews started in 1941 during World War 2.

Nowadays, the older generation of Jews seems to live in dread that younger Jews will realize how evil Zionism and the State of Israel really are while younger Jews often raised in Hebrew school on stories of positive Jewish achievements and the greatness of Israel suffer severe cognitive dissonance whenever confronted with the reality of increasing legitimate hostility towards Jews because of the crimes of Zionism and of the State of Israel.

Eli's cartoon is a wonderful study of modern Jewish rage. It depicts by analogy the heavy-handed and legally questionable means that American Jews use in their never-ending quest to control discourse about the State of Israel and to prevent any public questioning of the US-Israel alliance. The loss of power experienced by the Hulk when he thinks about allying with Christian Evangelical is a good metaphor for the paralysis that besets the organized Jewish community whenever a proposal is made to give some sort of official status to Christian Zionists in Jewish pro-Israel activities.

that for someone to say that this comic implicitly states that pbs is biased, could only be joking.  anyone who genuinely feels this way basically missed the whole point of the thing...

not totally original but entertaining nonetheless.

<i>If it always the same "Anonymous" bashing Eli Valley's work, why not
call yourself something unique like "EliHater"? Because I think it's
always the same one guy.</i>

Sorry to disappoint, but.  First, I'm pretty sure I'm new to that particular genre -- haven't read Eli Valley till now.  Second, it's not really about Eli Valley, whom I don't know, and am sure is a very nice boy with properly anti-Zionist ideals who is willing to patiently explain that there is no Jewish people, Jews have nothing to do with Israel or, for that matter, the Middle East, and Yiddish is the universal language of fellow citizens of the Mosaic faith wherever they may be.  Or whatever: see? I have no idea.  Rather, it's about the ideas expressed.  "Shorter Eli Valley" is, let's call it, shorthand for: shorter version of the ideas expressed above and attributed to Eli Valley.  In case you didn't, you know, get that.

<i>Tell Mr. Anonymous Post up there to take it easy.  I'm sure his novel
about the struggles of a barista from Bushwick will be just as gripping
as your epic about a frustrated web designer from Greenpoint. </i>

I love how personal all this is!  Yes, it's all about me.  Sadly, I am not a novellist.  Imagine how much more relevant this would all be if I were, though! It would be awesome!!

But, hey, stop trying to silence my criticism.  And stop construing all disagreement with cartoon policy as anti-EliValleyism!  And censoring me by, y'know, saying stuff.  It is downright stormtrooperish. Ack!

I don't think Eli was saying that PBS is antisemetic, I think he was poking fun at the sort of folks who comment here! You know, the kind of poster who froths at the mouth at even the mildest criticism of Israel.