Josh,

The message of Slacker was stated in one line: "Every single commodity you produce is a piece of your own death"

And judging by this article, I'd say that's right on. You commend Bill Maher for having the balls to shout down a few people who were already being manhandled by security. Why?

He looked so ridiculous chasing after the "Truthers" in the crowd, as if he were some sort of macho big shot and not the shrimpy weakling that he is.

I like Bill Maher, but he's dumb for refusing to consider a 9-11 conspiracy. There was a conspiracy, by definition, by the way. The only question is about the details. What sort of conspiracy was it?

"I've always found that the people who are most against conspiracy theory are the conspirators." - Gore Vidal

"Asskicking may not be precisely the way, but a fervent and vociferous rebuke is desirable"

Really? Is that how you'd prefer to go down? Because I was thinking about just kicking your ass, in order to save time. It all depends on whether we run into each other, I suppose...

...I got to feeling sick to my stomach for having engaged you, Mark.   I'll await your unclever assessment of my choice to remove the post.  Call it revisionism or some such thing...I prefer to call it compunction.   I've nothing to say to you as you've little to say.

"Is that how you'd prefer to go down? Because I was thinking about just kicking your ass, in order to save time. It all depends on whether we run into each other, I suppose..."

Is this guy for real??  Is he really posturing and throwing shapes at Josh from an undisclosed location somewhere out there on the internet? Is there anyone genuinely that ridiculous?

The point at which the revolutionary turns jester isn't so clear to our good friend here...

"You'll never have the honor of touching my ass whether to kick or to kiss. I'm certain you aren't pretty enough. And should we ever "run into each other" in our great and lovely city, I couldn't imagine I could be bothered to give you a second glance..."
I am certainly pretty enough to touch your ass or anyone else's. And remember that a narcissist is someone who is better-looking than you are. You'd give me more than a second glance; you'll be staring at me, sister.
"He's funny, I'll grant that and maybe even smart--but he's funny precisely because he's also a full-of-shit jerkoff. Oh wait, now I see why you identified with him so..."
'Full of shit jerkoff': I'll accept that label, thanks. I'll add it to my collection of insults. Most recently, I was called a "stupid, poseur radical" but now you, Josh, have just topped the most recent list.
But shouldn't we be getting back to the topic of this thread? Which was Bill Maher's laughable run after a 9-11 "truther" in the audience?
Shouldn't we be talking about how and why 9-11 happened, and not whether or not the debate about it was sufficiently stomped out enough?

"Is there anyone genuinely that ridiculous?"

Only me, Joey. And I'll kick your ass also, any day of the week, at anything you want: Jeopardy, Golf, Super Mario Cart, you name it, son!

"One question if you don't mind--are you a "shrimpy weakling" or a "macho tough guy?"
It wouldn't take much to throw you through a glass window. And that's exactly what I'd do to you. You better hope you never bump into me in the city, soldier.

Are we really having this conversation?  I'm not going to fight you, Marky Mark. 

"I'll await your unclever assessment of my choice to remove the post. Call it revisionism or some such thing"
I'll call it cowardice. You're behaving like a little child. Erasing your own posts? What are you fuckin nuts?
In any case, I am ready to debate you on any topic.
You tried to squash the debate about 9-11, which is why I took notice. Because that's a debate worth having. But apparently, you're not interested in it.

Cowardice. Cheers, mate. You win.  Tell me--for a fellow who purports to be morally offended at violence over this, that, and another thing, from where do you get this Steven Seagal streak?  Total 'Hard to Kill' style you're talking about here.  You've just threatened to kick my ass and throw me through a window and you think I'm a coward for not engaging you in a debate over 9/11?  This stuff parodies itself. 

9-11 was a very violent event, was it not? I think violent words and actions are not inappropriate in this context.
Look, I probably wouldn't throw you through a window if I had the chance, but I'd want to. You know why? Because you've been advocating this pointless "war on terror" and I have actual friends and relatives who have died in your horrible war.
You think anything the US gov does is for democracy? My god, talk about a joke...

Good of you.  "My" horrible war?  I have friends whose families have been dying and suffering at the hands of Islamists and the Taliban since well before 9/11.   But guess what-- they needn't even be my friends for me to care and it lends no extra weight to what I say.  Solidarity against theocratic fascists doesn't require me to know personally the victims.  I have family and friends fighting  at the mercy of the mismanaging blinded assholes in Washington, too.  You need more enemies, my friend.  You've got the Bush part down pat.  That's easy enough, and right enough, too.  He's a disaster, most of em are.  But try to muster a little hatred for the assholes who beggar their populations and blow up civilians in Baghdad and New York, too.  Give hate a chance.  That's all I'm saying. 

Boys, boys......stop this flirting at once and get a room. Otherwise, let's stick to the topic. Josh, I'm not sure if you've actually spent any time looking over some of the 9/11 guys' arguments, but I'd think twice about reflexively dismissing all of them. First of all, your assumption about their being unresponsive to the Popular Mechanics piece is uninformed-reams (or the electronic equivalent) have been written addressing PM's position. Some is wacky, some appears quite sober and credible, i.e., takes scientific and rational issue with PM's analysis. I'd also avoid generalizing from the Linklater character to "conspiracy theorists" as a group (I use quotes because the term itself, of course, is not a simple descriptive). This strikes me as the sort of lazy thinking that characterized all Vietnam war protesters as brats with daddy issues. If only the poor dorks would get laid, they'd snap out of it and join the Elks. Come on. Mark: I agree with your assessment of Maher's cowardly behavior towards the hecklers (whose thuggish antics I don't endorse, btw), but, dude, where's the hostility coming from? Never thought I'd say this, but...lighten up. I'm skeptical to agnostic about the claims of the 9/11 cats, but I don't think there's nothing for rational people to talk about regarding some of the anomalies in the official story. 

Did I read that right? Someone is threating a blogger here at Jewcy with an 'ass kicking'?

I must be hallucinating. Nothing could be so ridiculous after all.  Could Josh be related to Elie Wiesel?

Mark "ass kicking" Grueter starred in some gay porn.

http://www.goingwestpictures.com/GWrealsite.swf

You gotta click on "Reunion" and then cast.

When he's not filming he's trolling. When he's not trolling he's imagining someone paying him to write, but then he's remembering he's not getting any younger, so he trolls when he could be writing. Then he remembers he has press credentials for obsessing over a successful writer who rejected him. Then he realizes that all the comments he's posted when he wasn't writing will be online for all potential employers to read and get nervous about. Then he fears a lifetime of being rejected for bad writing and trolling and ass-kicking window-throwing threats. Then feels bad all over again and Trolls some more.

Lonely Mark, not on the mic but on the keyboard.

In action at Harry's Place:

I come to this blog and see nothing but a bunch of incestuous Limey crap. The English are a rotting species, trying to latch on to America in order to preserve your sense of worth and ancient empire. Well, I'm here to tell you that both America and England are dead, rotting, stinking empires ... So go ahead and do it. Pull out of the UN, and let the Russians and Chinese kick your ass into the ground. I cannot wait for it ... I'm all for killing those who make war against us, which is why I think you and Hitchens should die. Anyone who still belives the war in Iraq is a just war should placed into the most convenient electric chair available ... Does Conquest even speak Russian? Who died and made R Conquest an expert on Russia? He know dick about Russia, as far as I'm concerned ... Since I don't have the physical opportunity to hit you over the head, I've decided to give you the verbal equivalent of an ass-kicking: yes, I know Russian. I have lived in Russia for almoost 3 years. Russia, with my backing, will soon destroy your ass.

Yobne vrot.

 -A dumb American

Please don't make me start (re-)banning people, and keep your caveman skull-bashing threats to yourselves.

Apologies, was quoting the mentally disordered Mark G from last week. Let's try this again.
The idiot Mark G in action at Harry's Place:

I come to this blog and see nothing but a bunch of incestuous Limey crap. The English are a rotting species, trying to latch on to America in order to preserve your sense of worth and ancient empire. Well, I'm here to tell you that both America and England are dead, rotting, stinking empires ... So go ahead and do it. Pull out of the UN, and let the Russians and Chinese kick your ass into the ground. I cannot wait for it ... I'm all for killing those who make war against us, which is why I think you and Hitchens should die. Anyone who still belives the war in Iraq is a just war should placed into the most convenient electric chair available ... Does Conquest even speak Russian? Who died and made R Conquest an expert on Russia? He know dick about Russia, as far as I'm concerned ... Since I don't have the physical opportunity to hit you over the head, I've decided to give you the verbal equivalent of an ass-kicking: yes, I know Russian. I have lived in Russia for almoost 3 years. Russia, with my backing, will soon destroy your ass.

are there really people here who are defending 9-11 conspiracy theories.  hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha  thats one of the funniest and pathetic things i have seen in a while.

Yesterday, the University of Delaware asked Asaf Romirowsky to step down from an academic panel at the University of Delaware because another panelist, University of Delaware political scientist Muqtedar Khan, didn't want to share the podium with anyone who served in the Israeli Defense Forces. Romirowsky, who holds joint American/Israeli citizenship and lives in Philadelphia, had been invited to join Khan, his colleague in political science, Stuart Kaufman, a staff member of the National Security Council during the Clinton administration, and a graduate student to discuss anti-Americanism in the Middle East. The program was organized by the College Republicans, the College Democrats, and the Students of Western Civilization Club. The Leadership Institute provided the funds for the panel, which met on the University of Delaware campus on Wednesday evening. The students offered Romirowsky the opportunity to come to campus next week and speak alone, with no other panel members who might object to his presence.

If Khan was just an academic, that would be one thing.  But he also straddles the policy world: Khan is a a Nonresident Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution, and a Pentagon consultant.  According to an e-mail he sent to the University, he gave a workshop at the Pentagon yesterday afternoon. 

Academics should embrace intellectual challenge; not flee from it.

Here's the e-mail from Khan stating his objections to appearing with Romirowsky:

—— Original message ——
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:02:29 -0400
From: "Muqtedar Khan" <REDACTED>
Subject: Re: Understanding Anti-Americanism Panel
To: [Names redacted]

  Laura, I have to speak at the Pentagon tomorrow. My
  workshop is from 12-4. I hope to catch the 5 pm
  Acela from DC and will be back in town by 7 pm. I 
  will come directly, but may be late. I am also not
  sure how I feel about being on the same panel with
  an Israeli soldier who was stationed in West Bank.
  Some people see IDF as an occupying force in the 
  West Bank. I am not sure that I will be comfortable
  occupying the same space with him. It is not fair to
  spring this surprise on me at the last moment.