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Robert Kaplan on Petraeus

Michael Weiss
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This may come as a shock to some readers but, as Joe Klein long ago indicated, David Petraeus is from the Democratic military establishment, not the Republican one. Here is Robert D. Kaplan in The Atlantic:

The idea that General Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker are front men for the administration is ludicrous. Until he took the job as overall ground commander in Iraq, Petraeus was a favorite of liberal journalists: the Princeton man who enjoyed the company of the media and intellectuals, so much so that he was vaguely distrusted by other general officers who envied the good ink he received. As for Crocker, he is a hard-core Arabist, a professional species that I once wrote a book about: He is the least likely creature on earth to buy into neoconservative ideas about the Middle East. Neither of these men are identified with the decision to go to war. If I had to bet, I’d say that Crocker especially would have been against it, like his other Arabist colleagues. Thus, these men have no personal stake in proving the president right. They and their staffs are much more likely to provide a balanced analysis of the reality in Iraq than senators and congressmen looking over their shoulders at opinion polls and future elections. As Petraeus said, “I wrote this testimony myself,” meaning, the White House had nothing to do with it. Watching them brief Congress Monday, I came away convinced that they made a better impression on the public than anyone else in the room.


Michael Weiss

Michael is a contributing editor of Jewcy. His work has appeared in Slate, Gawker, New York, Democratiya, The New Criterion and The Weekly Standard. His blog is Snarksmith.


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Mark G


Yes, but they are commenting on themselves and on how they have done in their respective jobs. They didn't comment on the wisdom of the enterprise. (i.e. why the fuck are we there in the first place?)

Also, Petraeus talked of the apparent attacks from in Iran on multiple fronts in Iraq as if we didn't bring those attacks upon ourselves. What nobody seems to be talking about is that his report is essentially a call to war against Iran. The General seemed pretty hellbent on the notion of attacking Iran...

I'd rather hear Fred Kaplan's take.





Ali Eteraz

Ali Eteraz


The video is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lz-PxpPGXo

this is from fdl:

While many in the media would like to unquestioningly accept the White House narrative that General David Petraeus walks on water and that all of his claims about progress in Iraq are undoubtedly true, the fact is that Petraeus has a history of extremely bad judgment with regard to the war. In the above video, Glenn Greenwald outlines many of Petraeus’s flawed assessments that have caused fellow military officers to dub him “General Betray Us.”

 





Michael Weiss

Michael Weiss


Adding to suspicions, the report - based on recommendations by Petraeus and Ryan Crocker, the US ambassador to Iraq - will be written by White House staff.

If this is true, then the general has more to worry about than dissension in the ranks of his command. It would mean that he lied before Congress in his opening remarks:

At the outset, I would like to note that this is my testimony.  Although I have briefed my  assessment and recommendations to my chain of command, I wrote this testimony myself.  It has  not been cleared by, nor shared with, anyone in the Pentagon, the White House, or Congress.   

Feel free to doubt him, but as Fred Kagan says in that same article you link to, Ali, if Petraeus is politically ambitious and if he's over-reliant on being the president's belligerent errand boy, then if the surge fails, he'll have tied a millstone around his neck.

I don't quite see anything in his history as a strategist or commander to indicate he'd be that foolish. I may be wrong. 





Elvis Baldwell


Tom Lantos made a fool out of himself. I am normally a Lantos fan, but he fell on his face publically. It will increase his vulnerability to challenge in the next election