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one of the blogging daters on your site had a post some weeks ago about having, mercifully, a shiksa nose -- so you don't need to look as far as 42nd street to find self hatred and self reservation. you got that special brand of vapidness right there at jewcy.

OMG, if you have to go back "some weeks ago" to find an instance of "vapid self-hatred and self-reservation" on the site, then Jewcy's doing something wrong. Any respectable New Jew site should be giving you a helping of that shit at least once a week, maybe more. Jewcy's falling behind the competition.

...in her [[http://www.jewcy.com/jewcy_forums/what_do_you_think_of_jewcys_articles#comment-2217|observation]] that those with the nastiest things to say about Jewcy are always "Anonymous." People, people. Have the beitzim to own your comments, please. Otherwise why should anyone take seriously what you have to say?

"This giddy semitic shamelessness about assimilating, about owning and having and buying and having and having and having."

I don't know. Is old school JAPiness still around? My grandmother's horrid stories about how her pretty sister was the envy of her little Toronto Jew-ghetto because she could "pass", she could get into gentile clubs because they couldn't tell she was a stinky, swarthy Zhid. She looked just like a Presbyterian! And my Aunt's stories about how young Jewish girls in LA in the 1940s never believed they could be pretty like a goyess...but oh, how they tried to make themselves look like Lauren Bacall! And they didn't even know she was a crypto-Jew!

That was the shit that drove old school JAPiness, but do the Jewesses of our generation really fantasize about being as good as a she-gentile? I don't think so. A case study: My wife probably would rather not be Jewish if she had the choice, but to her it's not a deformity she's trying to straighten out so much as an annoying quirk of history that will go away if she pretends it's not there, and that no one would ever surmise if she didn't mention it herself. To the extent that I've seen self-loathing among our generation of Jewish women, that's how it looks. It's different from what drove my grandma's sis's JAPiness. The desperation isn't to assimilate (they already feel assimilated), it's just (and here the application to wifey totally stops) the same desperation that drives superficial brainless brats of all extractions...the giddy shamelessness about "owning and having and buying and having and having and having." And integration can't solve that, because it's not a Jewish thing, it's an overprivileged upper middle-class Western urbanite thing. Good book on this.

Am I right or no?

Joey

but the thing is, the term "JAP" has been sort of universally appropriated by many ethnic groups to describe those "superficial brainless brats of all extractions".  so... we've got no choice but to own it and examine it as an american jewish thing, ya know? it does mean jewish, american, and princess, after all.  pretty self-explanatory.   it's not about wanting to "pass", it's about being a materialistic whore with no grander ambition but to make the transition from daddy paying the visa bill to some unlucky boyfriend/husband paying the visa bill. and it's time to chuck those bitches out of the club, is all i'm saying.  disown 'em.   anyway. hey, anonymous folk: what are you, chicken?  

All right, I'm totally on board. We need the wisdom of crowds to crack this one.

Joey

out of the club then how would 'we' make ourselves feel superior?  And you know after paying my visa bill for a very long time, and putting it to good hardy use over the years - I would love to find some very lucky boyfriend/husband to pay all the bills.  I am starting to think that maybe those JAP's you describe are on to something - something really nice.  This whole feminist moral high ground I have taken all these years - paying my  own bills -  sort of sucks! 

A few ideas...

Love the article. Ok, that wasn't an idea I realize.

Can I dare say that with our peoples' history of strong women, that the so-called JAP-iness is somewhat antithetical to our history/ideas of what this world should be about? I certainly don't mean to romanticize an imagined past.  And certainly the Jewish history of gender is problematic (though I would dare say often a step or two ahead of the normative curve).  I just have this distinct feeling that the JAP Syndrome (worst...movie title...ever) is an American phenomena.  The manifestation of our own efforts to assimilate, and in that process falling into the worst, prevailing stereotypes of Jewish wealth and power.  Yet the image of modern Jewish women as intellectuals, artists, radicals, etc...is not nearly as salient.  However, nearly all of those movements' leaders were Jewish.  How/where does ownership over a collective identity take shape?

And Hannah Arendt? Let's just say American Express knew Heidegger's cell phone number by heart.

Fucking spoiled Jewess bitches. They're everywhere!