>>>Having them do civic service instead has never been implemented because of Israeli political opposition by those who dislike the exemption, not because of Haredi opposition.  Check out the facts on this: The Haredim have been asking for this for decades, and it is the secularists that refuse to allow it.  After the huge immigration from the FSU, when the army couldn’t even absorb the many draftees ans was turning people away, it came up again and was again refused because the secular felt it was unfair to them.<<<

 Sigh. Do better homework. Haredim opposed any form of civic service that takes haredim out of strictly haredi communities.

 >>>Likewise, you talk about child allowances: These are paid to everyone, this isn’t a sinecure just to the Haredim.  And welfare is not given to those who refuse to work, even if they are in kolel.<<<

Again, two groups of Israelis have lots of children: haredim and Arabs. The child allowances benefit primarily these two groups.

You can see this clearly now (if you want to see it clearly, that is) by reading this:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1222017599061&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

In the current coalition talks, Shas and Agudath Israel are demanding restored child allowances. Degel HaTorah wants more money for yeshivot.

But the Litvish yeshiva system has for years been riddled with fraud. Some of the funded institutions don't really exist. The money given to those fake yeshivot by the government makes it way to kollel families. 

>>>I can tell you that NOBODY in that community condones child abuse.<<<

Tell that to the dozens of victims I've heard from. Each tells the same story of coverup.

 >>>I find your rants about the "whole" unsubstantiated and frankly, uninformed.<<<

Let's see if we can process. 

A man with widespread haredi rabbinic backing bans most forms of music, calling them primitive and linking them negetively to Africa and Africans.

Not one major haredi rabbi objects. 

You think I paint that with a braod brush?

Please.

>>>As a descendant of the B'aal Shem Tov, and a modern woman, I know whereof I speak.<<<

It doesn't appear you do. 

>>>He made a conscious decision that he did not want any doubt of whether he was killing another person to save his life. <<<

He made NO such decision. 

His friends and family worked tirelessly to find a donor. According to Rabbi Elyashiv and most other ultra-Orthodox rabbis, ANY harvesting of hearts and lungs from brain dead people is MURDER.

Therefore, Raichik did not make "a conscious decision that he did not want any doubt of whether he was killing another person to save his life."

Try reading the article again slowly. Perhaps in your case, very slowly. 

I guess when the facts, history, science and logic are all against you, all you have left is conspiracy theories.

The man was exonerated. Dozens of historians support him. The facts support him.

This is a textbook example of how ultra-Orthodox society really works.

Normally, the halakha (Jewish law) would be to judge the man's actions by the facts, and would take into account expert opinions (i.e., could a have happened on this date when b also happened on this date nearby).

In this case, the facts do not support an ultra-Orthodox myth. Neither do the experts.

What happens? 

The experts are attacked as "biased." All evidence supporting Kasztner is tossed aside or explained away as being part of a conspiracy theory. And poor Kasztner remains "guilty."

Reality and ultra-Orthodoxy do not mix. 

>>>The question Shmaryah, has difficulty to clariby does he of doesn't he support terrorism aganst the Jews?<<<

It isn't unanswered. In your case, though, it is unprocessed. 

>>>YOU torpedo your own point, Sharmya, by mentioning that wonderful man, Moshe Feinstein. He was decidedly Orthodox, and, HE had an ethical attitude toward workers such as these, you say yourself. Sooooo, maybe it's an individual, or a specific company, that can present a problem, or be out of line, NOT Orthodoxy. <<<

Please.

What Rav Moshe ruled was clear. Too bad Agudath Israel, the OU, Young Israel, Chabad, dozens of kashrut organizations, hundreds of Orthodox rabbis, and thousands of Orthodox Jews (judging from their current silence, as explained above), do not follow his ruling.

The only argument that can be made is, if Rav Moshe were still alive and well, Orthodoxy would act differently. 

But Rav Moshe is not alive and well.