David, you write (and I realize this is not the thrust of your argument which now is between you and zbird):
As the people who have brought the idea of one God to the world, it is some irony that it is Jews who want to make sure God cannot be mentioned in the public square, don't you think?
No. Not ironic at all. David, the Jews lead the country in making sure that public officials do not become agent of a religion, because for nearly 90% of this country's history, it has been Jews who've had to endure being imposed upon by Christians.
You will find that the Jews have been moral leaders in a number of 20th century 'secular' initiatives. There are clearly reasons for that; reasons having had to do with a long legacy of imposition by Christians.
[It is the same reason that in today's Muslim world the 'secular' response usually comes from non-Muslim religions or minority Muslim groups].
humbly, koffler's post isn't a complaint about whether or not jewish leaders have condemned hagee; rather its that mccain has sought the support of a guy in whose theology the final solution is a positive. your assertion that rabbi Y has already condemned hagee is complementary to koffler's point. i can see your argument somewhat given the headline koffler used but that's a headline and it need only loosely relate to the content.
first time i heard about this. thanks a lot.
when the burj ul arab hotel opened in dubai, everyone complained that it was the world's biggest cross made as a show of strength by norwegians (its designed as a sailboat's mast).
it should also be noted that muslims got the idea of a 'noise-making tower' from christians. in fact, some early muslims suggested using bells in a tower as the muslim call to prayer, but muhammad opted for something a little different.
from eli's link:
"I tell you what, I can tell you the kinds of stuff I love dancing to . . . I'm sort of the generation of Stevie Wonder and Earth, Wind and Fire," he told CNN on the campaign trail. "But I'm sort of hip to the younger stuff. You know, like Beyoncé's 'Crazy in Love.' That's a good song to dance to. Eminem . . . although he curses sometimes."
SOMETIMES?