Dhimmi seminar 101!

After all the Brits have to learn how to do it right.

to the mix? Why don't you explain what the problem is; well, unless, of course, you're simply a nativist bigot or something.

Islamist values are old Tory values. W/ New Tories chasing an ephemeral Fourth Way, it's no wonder decent clean living Brits who want their lives to mean something greater than the next drink, lay or cigarette are tempted to submit to Islam. Their forebears had His or Her majesty, or the Church, or the Empire or, in a pinch, England to cling to. Now, nothing. And something, especially something essentially reactionary, is better than nothing. That trendy progressive idiots write about the wonder and glory of it all in the Guardian and Time Out is merely amusing.

Is there a subliminal message here? If there is, channel 4 should have been a little more subtle with their camera-work.

Roll the you tube tape, and as the counter reads 1:07. You'll see a guy on the left with his penis hanging out.

"But what's wrong with adding some Islamic values to the mix?"

hatred of non Muslims is not a value.

What's wrong with Muslims adopting some non Muslims values like tolerance of dissent and freedom of speech?

"What's wrong with Muslims adopting some non Muslims values"

And why do you think that is not happening? You sound like a ignorant bigot, buddy. But I'm sure you know that.

Actually I wouldn't mind seeing a few Politically Correct anti-israeli Brits get their heads chopped off....or at least 20 lashes with the Sharia whip.

http://alieteraz.com/

I can't believe they made a show celebrating fundamentalism. 

http://alieteraz.com/

I'm told that the timeout london thing was a joke, designed to instigate a reaction (its not funny all the same).

here is a muslim blogger lambasting the muslim makeover show.

Or better yet, "Be a Jew for a month." Come to think of it, I would recommend anyone to try wearing a scullcap, not to become Jewish, but merely to experience what it's like being perceived as one. I tried it in Southern California. In just 5 days of going to college with a scullcap on my head, I was spat on by one person and stalked by another. I heard that in the UK it's worse.

Don't they realize they are paying me the highest compliment known to man

Hear ye oh mushlem, Yes I am a Zionist. 

AND I'M LOVING EVERY MINUTE OF IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!

the hijab

intolerance

no showers

beheadings

no beer

no sex

no bikinis

no freedom

praying to a stupid deity 5 times a day

 with 'Islam is cuddly' show. Laugh as some people try not to consume bacon or alcohol for a bit. Oh, and some other stuff.

I like
the hijab and no showers. And I don't wear bikinis anyway.

And
beheadings are kinda cool too. Missiles and bombs get boring after a while, too impersonal.

As far as beer and sex are concerned, they're just humoring you, fella.

I think that the show was a veiled (no pun inteneded) criticism of isalm, and this sort of thing has been going on for a while in Channel 4's documentaries. I'm actually in favour of criticising islam and the show did a good a job at showing how daft it really is. I'm sure the 'muslim mentors' on the whole are well-meaning individuals but just too condescending for my liking and obviously deluded and misguided being muslims in the first place.

The producers of the documentary did a good job at showing the irrelevance of islam. You don't need islam to stay off the beer for a couple of weeks.

...you, fellas, sure spend a helluva lot of time and energy here trying to belittle it. It sure feels like you're positively obsessed with it.

...and it doesn't matter is you sacrifice bulls to Jupiter or think all religions are hooey. The problem with Islam...well, one of the problems with Islam, is its militant insistence on its supremacy in all areas of human experience.

I can't help but agree with Ayaan Hirsi Ali's comment on Islamophobia: "There's no such thing."

Brendan O'Neil is a leading activist in a cultish and tiny political group called the Revolutionary Communist Party.

This group reoriented in a "turn to media" strategy after it was ordered to pay damages to a news reporter who it had accused of lying and falsifying evidence of Serbian atrocities against Bosnian muslims. Now, most of its prominent members are newspaper columnists.

Talk to ex members of this outfit: it is a cult - seriously!

Commissioning an activist in a Srebrenica-denial party to write an article about Islam is like paying David Irving to write an article about Judaism.

Jewcy - have you totally lost your judgement?

Do you want to be seen in the company of this sort of person?

Yes, the programme is stupid, religion is stupid, imams are fools etc. O'Neil's take on the progamme is also stupid. RCP articles are always the same: tediously so. Their schtick is take a contrarian stance, and to advance some silly and highly contentious theory. Quelle surprise: they've done so here!

To be trendy and chic, the young feel they must emulate the Far-Left politics with which they were first indoctrinated in during their college years. Most of the stuff on this site certainly qualifies as standard Politically Correct fare.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2232050,00.html

"Blair looks to Rome as Catholic Sunday worshippers outstrip Anglicans"

Stephen Bates and Sam Jones
Monday December 24, 2007
The Guardian

"Senior English Catholics yesterday welcomed the conversion of Tony Blair to Catholicism, as church attendance figures appeared to show that their church is now attracting more Sunday worshippers than the Church of England.

Although some conservative Catholics have claimed that Labour's record in office on issues such as abortion, same sex civil partnerships, embryo research and the Iraq war have undermined the former prime minister's claim to have accepted church doctrine, the Archbishop of Westminster, Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor, who conducted the service at which Mr Blair was accepted into the church on Friday evening, welcomed his conversion."

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Murphy-O'Connor said on BBC Radio 2: "It was a very moving occasion ... this was a gift for Tony, a personal journey and a gift for his family. I think also, it is not just in his travels as prime minister but even before that there was something he said to me, that he feels at home in the Catholic church in a way he did not in any other church or in the Anglican communion."

A Vatican spokesman said that the conversion of "such an authoritative personality" could only give rise to joy and respect. The last world leader Mr Blair met shortly before he left office in the summer was Pope Benedict XVI.

The Church of England yesterday disputed the suggestion that Sunday service attendance figures, to be published next year, show more Catholics attending mass than Anglicans attending the established church's services.

The statistics, gathered by the Christian Research organisation, showed both churches' attendances in long-term decline, but Catholicism apparently recording a blip which placed it marginally ahead of the Anglicans on 861,800 in 2006 - 32,000 down from the previous year - compared with a Church of England figure of 852,500, representing only an 18,000 decline.

Both figures are well down from a decade ago. The Catholic congregations have been bolstered by an influx of devoted young Poles and other eastern Europeans in the last two years - though they overwhelmingly attend their own services. Christian Research has shown Catholic mass attendance outstripping Church of England worshippers consistently over the last 30 years, though about six times as many people in the population as a whole claim nominal allegiance to Anglicanism than Catholicism, even if they rarely attend church.

A Church of England spokesman said: "Even if you accept the gap is narrowing, to get a full picture you have to look at a lot more than Sunday services. For Anglicans it is not just about Sunday attendance. People have family and other commitments. Midweek we have 180,000 worshippers and that reflects today's society."

At Saint Andrew Bobola, perhaps the most famous Polish Catholic church in London, well over 300 people crowded in for the 10.30 mass yesterday morning. News of Mr Blair's conversion had reached some of them through the papers and others through Polish television.

Michael Sobic, a chef who left Warsaw for the UK in 1981, welcomed the highest-profile conversion from Anglicanism to Catholicism in many decades.

"It's fantastic about Tony Blair, brilliant," he said. "Polish people always go to church," said another worshipper. "I think it's good for [Blair]." Others were less stunned. "Obviously Blair was a committed Christian and his wife is a Catholic and he educated his children at a Catholic school, so it didn't come as a huge surprise," said Ewa Butryn, who had gone to church with her husband and children.

"I don't think it will have a big effect on politics, though. Religion and politics don't mix very well these days."

Since Poland joined the EU three years ago attendance at St Andrew Bobola has shot up. "The church is very much a welcoming place, said Mr Sobic. "It's always a full house. It's a really, really strong community and very committed." The Polish influx had been "a blessing" for the Catholic church in the UK, but he was saddened that not all churches were flourishing. "I feel sorry for you guys because so many Church of England churches are empty now. It's a pity. Here it's always full."

So what?  This is a non-story. His wife is Roman Catholic so this is not exactly earth-shaking news.

The last place anyone should look for morality is in a church, mosque, or synagogue. Coexistence with monotheists is always fraught with peril. Consider the poor Romans.