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I, for one, think God is dead

Dead serious about you rolling to the Mount of Olives!


MaxKohanzad


The idea of God is dead. In

The idea of God is dead.

In Hebrew name of God is  יהוה or 'Yahway' however, that may not be the correct pronounciation, the three main letters of the name of God are הוה

Hoe-ve - which means present-being and the additional yud means makes God's name translate as 'That which brings into being' or 'that which is continuously present' -

Within hasidic literature the above name of God is scrambled a little in to Haviyahהויה  which actually means 'Existence so according to Judaism God is Being  '  

 





MaxKohanzad


Shema Yisrael etc.. etc...

Free translation of the Shema - according to me:

Listen Up! Those that struggle with Almighty (life the universe & everything). That which brings into being, is also your own being, that which always IS, is (completely) one (you included)!

And (when you realise this) you will love all of Existence, (particularly) your corner of it, with all your hearts, all your souls and your entire being!

And these ideas, which the I of existence is compelling you, this very day, you will place them within your heart, and you'll seriously teach them to your children, and you'll speak about them when you sit in your house, and when you are travelling on the way,  when you go to sleep and when you get up, and you'll bind them to your deeds,  and they will be a meditation between your eyes, and you'll write them (like graffitti?) on the doorposts of your houses and your gates.

And if indeed you do listen (deeply to existence) you will hear the inner complusion which the I of being compels you this very day, to love all of Existence, (particularly) your corner of it... etc...





nonbeliever


god existence

I think there is no God. If there is one, it is not the way people imagine. It is not a "good" being, since it lets millions of good people to die in starvation and wars, or diseases, while it allows bad guys earn fortunes. Or it is not powerful since it can not punish criminals on Earth. All what religions say is imagination, or lies. -





MaxKohanzad


Dear Mr nonbeliever! Strange

Dear Mr nonbeliever!

Strange but the God that you don't believe in - I also don't believe in

it is a forth grade conception of some king - white bearded Man in the sky.

What has happened is that you've grown up - but your view and concept of God has not - you have developed by your God has not.

So big deal that your god is a pile of shit, who is to blame for that God your your limited view of god?

You sound like some spoilt brat -

oh god lets millions of people die - God can't be 'Good' -

God "allows bad guys earn fortunes."

God is not all powerful because - "it can not punish criminals on Earth" etc...

The problem is that you ARE a believer - you deep down want to belive in your child like view of God - but you life and cynical impression of the meaningless of life - now makes you think - that God must be like the tooth fairy, or father christmas!

That's why you are so disapoint in 'god' that He is such a shit!

Let me ask you this Mr. or Mrs nonbeliever what if you actually read my above post?

and realised that the Authentic Jewish view of God was actually much closer to 'Existence' than - 'man in sky with beard'?

Lets re fraise what you've said with this new definition and see if it makes any sence to bitch God out.

"I think there is no 'Existence'. If there is one Existence, it is not the way people imagine. Existence is not a "good" Being, since it lets millions of good people to die in starvation and wars, or diseases, while Existence allows bad guys earn fortunes. Or Existence is not powerful since it can not punish criminals on Earth. All what religions says [about Existence] is imagination, or lies."

Look simple facts here: Existence Exists!

Existence - is all knowing, it is all powerful, it is good baby! it is supremely intellegent and it is Existence that gave us the Torah!

Much love*





MaxKohanzad


i think i need to get out

i think i need to get out more





gogityershinebox


Hey, I know this is an old topic...

...but I found this interesting.  I have been dealing with exactly what you said, a fourth grade version of G-d.

The straw that broke the camel's back was that story about the little girl in Vegas that was molested on video tape.  It hurt me so watching the news about this and straight up pissed me off at the concept of G-d's.  Yes, admittedly, I am looking at G-d from the fourth grade view. 

My honest question is, if the Torah is believed in the literal sense...isn't G-d more like the king with the white beard than a "force?"  I was just reading the daily Torah portion, and he was talking to Rebecca.

 Also, can you explain further on the idea of G-d as "existence?"   





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