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Are You As Jewish As A Kosher Style Deli?
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On Monday night I read an awesome piece over at SOMA Review about how hard it is to find a good Jewish deli outside of a big metropolis. It’s a fun, interesting article by a woman named Mary Beth Crain who’s had to move to the small town of Hart, Mich. to be with family, and who has an interesting way of prioritizing:

I soon discovered that being a Jew in Hart is a far different experience from being a Jew in L.A., or New York, or Flatbush. There’s no synagogue, and no Jewish community, but far more important—there’s no Jewish deli.

Yes, if you ask me, the deli—and by deli I do not mean those pathetic packaged sandwich sections in the supermarkets and 7-11’s—is the real place of Jewish worship. A genuine Jewish deli is not simply a wondrous locale, it’s a wondrous experience.

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Schmaltz and Co deli in Naperville, IL: Kosher style, and Jewish, but not kosherSchmaltz and Co deli in Naperville, IL: Kosher style, and Jewish, but not kosher
Crain goes on to list, at length, her favorite things about various delis in LA, where she lived before the move to Michigan. And I have to admit, her descriptions are fantastic, and totally make me want to visit those delis the next time I’m in LA. Except for one thing: they’re not kosher, and I’m a vegetarian.

The whole phenomenon of Jewish delis irritates me, to be honest. I get annoyed because in my mind, Jewish should mean kosher, but in fact, the prototypical Jewish delis—the Carnegie deli in New York, Manny’s Deli in Chicago, and Zingerman’s in Ann Arbor are pretty thoroughly treyf these days.

The only thing that gets my eyes rolling faster than Jewish delis is anything that’s “kosher-style.” Does anyone know what that means? Is there anyone out there that eats only at kosher and “kosher-style” restaurants? I doubt it.

I love food, and I especially love traditionally Jewish foods. I make a mean Jerusalem kugel, and I think even vegetarian matzah ball soup has mystical medicinal powers (but I outright refuse to spell it matzo). The only thing that I love more than traditionally ashkenazic foods like kugel are traditionally Sephardic foods, like dolmades. And I’ve said before that whenever my faith in God wanes, I eat hummus and my faith is restored. But somehow a Jewish deli just doesn’t do it for me, and I think that’s because it makes me uncomfortable to sit in a place that’s openly proclaiming itself as Jewish, and that also openly serves a corned beef and Swiss sandwich.

Earlier this week I wrote about ahavat Israel, and I truly intend to make ahavat Israel a bigger part of my life this year, so I don’t want to come down hard on Jewish delis. I just wonder what makes a deli Jewish? A sign that says shalom? A Reuben on the menu? Homemade pickles?

When did Jewish come to mean quality meat (wow, SO many jokes to be made here), as Mary Beth Crain seems to imply? Why do we insist on making the deli part of our religious dialogue, when it seems to belong more in our cultural myth?

Frankly, when something is labeled Jewish, I have certain ethical standards that I hold it to, and I don’t really want to care about the ethics of some guys running a deli on the South Side of Chicago. But when they call it Jewish, I feel a sense of obligation.

You can call language Jewish (Yiddish) and you can call a piece of art of an artist Jewish (Chagall) because those aren’t things governed by Jewish law. So, if they act in a way that’s specifically non-Jewish, it’s less problematic. But I get edgy around foods and countries that label themselves Jewish, and then don’t live up to their own labels. But I don’t know. Maybe I’d feel different if I ate corned beef.



Tamar Fox has an MFA from Vanderbilt University in Nashville, but she still doesn't like sweet tea. Born and raised in Chicago, she's also lived in Iowa City, Dublin, Oxford, and Jerusalem. When she's not rocking out at honky tonks she teaches


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Anonymous


Food is an integral part of

Food is an integral part of culture, communication, tradition and definately religion. A good Jewish deli plays homage to all of that.





Annie


Are You as Jewish...

Tamar,

 I totally agree with you that Jewish delis should be kosher. Or at least should have a kosher counter!  Growing up in a strictly-kosher family out in the boondocks I never tasted the delights of deli food until I moved to New York. And that seems silly.

 Yes, food is a part of culture, but that culture was created around the laws of kashrut, and I think that I can safely say that a lot of our traditional Jewish foods would not have been created (like cholent, for instance) if not for observances that required slow-cooked, or hardy foods that could stand long periods of warming.

To take the food entirely out of that context seems a bit  bizarre, and I don't think adds anything to the experience. After all, if it is so important to you to have bagels as well, why not just have two counters (one meat, one dairy) and plastic utensils to eat on? What is the problem with having it be actually kosher?





mTp


"Jewish Deli"

This is a marketing term for the rest of the world. It is not aimed at Jews. A good Jewish deli from the non-Jewish world has to do with an image that is created or an experience that is delivered. Whether it is Kosher or not does not register into the non-Jewish mind.

From the perspective of a person that does not enjoy a big slab of meat, Kosher or not I am not interested. I do not like the experience or the food. However, I found that I love going to a Yeminite restaurant in NYC - small, good food, Kosher and a great experience.

In the current world of interest in unique groups we will have Jewish Delis in east-Michigan and hip-hop outfits in white suburbia and Tibetan beads in rural New England. Jewish style is a marketing mechanism like anything else.

Don't let it irritate you, its not worth the negative energy. Someone else will have a good experience in the Jewish deli - you can find the Kosher one with the good food.

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Anonymous


no difference in kosher brisket or kosher style brisket

having owned a kosher style deli for 30 years and being a conservative Jew, you get the same product. only difference is they pay a Rabbi to be on site to certify it kosher. same meat, same spices, differnet packaging and about $4.00 more per pound more. Vienna salami and Wilno Salami, same product, different label, its a racket in the meat business. They can pay me $150,000 a year to cerify products. Reuben Salami & corned beef and Sinai 48, same stuff different label. Buy the cheap stuff, say a prayer and eat it!! My mother and grandmother both said: food is made with love..now love the food we made for you..as she cut the head off the chicken, or made her knishes, or rolled her cabbage for pig in the blankets!





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