Sun, Jul 06, 2008

User login

DIALOGUE
The Ethnocentric Cult Is Finished
Cries of "We are one" will go nowhere in today's America

From: Joey Kurtzman
To: Jack Wertheimer
Subject: Reporting, not Prophecy

Well, we do agree on some things, Jack.

I have to admit that when I first read you described as the Cassandra of American Jewry, I scoffed. It gives you too much credit and your ideas too little. “The man’s no prophet,” I thought. “He’s a reporter.”

I’m a reporter, too. I use words like mongrelization not to insult myself, but to describe myself, and to convey the enormity of what’s taking place among this generation of Jewish Americans. And when I say “Judaism and Jewishness have never had so limited a claim on the identity of young Jews,” I’m neither conceding a point nor, I think, showing any great insight. People who are raised with multiple cultural influences will simply not have the same relationship to Judaism as people who are raised in a “Jewish-only” environment.Unstoppable: Intermarriage is a function of modern lifeUnstoppable: Intermarriage is a function of modern life

I don’t believe intermarriage is the cause of all this turmoil, but rather a consequence. Jews are marrying non-Jews because we’re also growing up, studying, working, and socializing with them. Do you really believe that when all these barriers have fallen, endogamy can be sustained? Your enemy is not intermarriage, but the pluralistic, endlessly permeable culture of the modern American city.

To me, this is no “disaster,” but the realization of the dream for which my great-grandparents uprooted themselves from Europe in the first place. They came to America for a better material life, of course, but also because they desperately wanted to live where they would be free to practice whatever profession they chose, associate with whomever they chose, and generally live their lives how they chose.

When they got here, they found that America wasn’t quite the Promised Land they’d fantasized about. They could be Jews in the home and men on the street, but only in the eyes of the state. Their fellow citizens had different opinions, and great swathes of American life remained off-limits to Jews. No longer. Today’s America is the one they dreamed about. We are now free to be whatever we want in the home, the street, or anywhere else.

This is why the cosmopolitan pluralism of American life is very much my “patrimony.” I think you are wrong to scoff at the word. This polyglot, postmodern American creole culture may not be the world of my fathers, but it surely is the world my fathers gave to me. My great-grandparents did not grow up, as I did, with more close Christian friends than Jewish ones. But they made it inevitable when they left the ghettos, shtetls, and corporatism of European life to go to a country that sought to make all associations voluntary, all men equal before the law, and all decisions of faith a matter of free choice. So my Sundays at Baptist Bible study with Korean-American friends were as much their legacy to me as were my years of Hebrew School.

I disagree with your assessment that all this amounts to a “fractured” identity. Personally, I feel quite whole. Those around me in the Jewcy offices do not seem fractured either. We’re confident in who we are, we feel excited and privileged to live in such a singular time, to have received so unprecedented and exceptional a heritage. If you want to find people who are confused and fractured, I think you’d find better specimens among Orthodox baalei teshuvah who reject their complex cultural backgrounds and instead claim to be simply Jews, “unambiguous” Jews, Jews like their ancestors were Jews, when in fact they are nothing of the sort.

You mention young Jews who defend Israel. I am, it’s true, not a Zionist. I think it’s a disproven proposition that a Jew can live a full life only within a Jewish state. Herzl’s dilemma has been solved. He thought Emancipation had failed, and that only disappearance or a nation-state could solve the problem of antisemitism. But America has delivered on the promise of Emancipation. If Herzl had had the option of hopping on an Austrian Airlines flight to 21st-century Los Angeles, do you believe for one second that he would have written Der Judenstaat? Even Zev Jabotinsky might have been impressed by the self-confidence of this generation of Jewish Americans.

Still, I am intensely pro-Israel, feel great affection for the country and culture, and go as often as I’m able. I spent several years in college in Europe defending Israel against the absurd insults and ignorant mischaracterizations of the European left; I defended Zionism, too, as nothing akin to the defamatory caricature so many in Europe prefer to imagine.

I mention my thoughts on Israel only to demonstrate that we do not need to “pick one people” in order to engage enthusiastically and confidently with Jewish identity or Jewish thought. We Jewcy Jews are hungry to make Jewishness an important part of our lives. Of course we know that Judaism is different. Of course all traditions are not the same. They have different strengths, elaborate concepts in different ways and to different depths, and have different insights to offer. We are at Jewcy because we believe that the Jewish tradition has the brilliance and depth to help us navigate in this new world.
Welcome aboard, Herr Herzl: One-way ticket from Vienna to Los Angeles not yet available in 1893Welcome aboard, Herr Herzl: One-way ticket from Vienna to Los Angeles not yet available in 1893
We do not want mealy “I’m okay, you’re okay” pablum. Obviously, that’s inadequate. The future of Judaism may not be okay. Our world is not okay. We are confronted every day by the most intense imaginable moral challenges: Six million children die every year of severe malnutrition and consequent infections, while people of privilege, people like us, waste ever-greater wealth on ever-more-frivolous luxury. The challenges of our world are intense. We crave Jeremiahs who can offer coherent, principled approaches to these challenges.

But Rabbinic Judaism is not enough. Portable Judaism is not enough. It’s not portable enough to travel into a world without peoplehood, a world of intense impurity and diverse influences and loyalties, where binary definitions of “Jew” or “not-Jew” grow increasingly inadequate.

Jewish identity based on ethnocentrism is not just undesirable to us, it’s deeply alien to us. It’s from another world, a world we can read about, but to which we can’t return. You ask an "unambiguous" Jewishness which is difficult for us even to comprehend. Can we be "unambiguously Jewish" when we have such a swirl of cultural influences, and so many loyalties outside the Jewish community?

And yes, ethnocentrism is horribly inadequate to the moral challenges of a world in which Jewish Americans are empowered and privileged, but masses elsewhere suffer unthinkable violence and deprivation. It's a world in which genocide in Darfur and mass child-death-by-malnutrition make a moral monstrosity, an inestimable averah, out of these obsessions with the bloodlines and marital practices of one of the world’s most privileged communities.

And finally, yes, ours is a world in which it is unspeakably alien, almost laughable, to imagine that someone is a less appropriate object of our love and commitment because of the particulars of their genealogy.

The fantasy is not in imagining that Jewishness can survive in this world; it’s in imagining that cries of “We are one” can ever again resonate with a significant portion of Jewish Americans. People like you, Jack, are who we hope can be our new Zakkais. You’re the ones with the knowledge and seriousness and brilliance to create a new Yavneh, to refashion Judaism for this world. But first you have to accept that the old battle is lost, the old ethnocentric cult finished.

Joey

NEXT: Adolescent rebellion still rages in the Jewish community


Joey Kurtzman is president of Jewcy Partners, LLC, and co-founding editor of Jewcy.com. Prior to joining Jewcy he was an on-air contributor to Ireland's political and cultural radio program, The Wide Angle.

He lives in Los Angeles with


More...

Akiva David


Home run

Nice response, Joey.  You hit that one out of the ballpark.





zbird


hit the nail on the head

They say Bob Dylan was the "voice of a generation."
I really believe you've just voiced the essential worldview of my generation of Jews.

Of course, I wouldn't be Jewish if I didn't have at least a small caveat:

You dispute Wertheimer's notion of a generation with a "fractured identity" by saying that "We’re confident in who we are, we feel excited and privileged to live in such a singular time, to have received so unprecedented and exceptional a heritage."

I think you both could be right here. I have no doubt you and your friends are as you describe them, and I think I can describe myself the same (at least in my better moments).

Still, I think the very freedom we enjoy in a post-modern culture, where every aspect of our lives is up for grabs, makes it inevitable that our identity is somewhat fractured. For example, I too reject Wertheimer's ethnocentricity, but nevertheless I can't help feeling queasy at the thought that a future shiksha wife might want to baptize my kids. There's definitely a fracture of some sort between my idealistic worldview and my lower tribal instincts.

I think we can label this "fracture" as something more positive--like being inquisitive, or wrestling with G-d ("Israel" in Hebrew). But our identity is definitely split.





mmausner


great piece but you're still wrong

so many americans are desperately searching for identity and meaning, and a true sense of home, as the centrifugal and atomizing forces of modern consumerism and the collapse of other ideologies leave people adrift, alienated, homeless.

So people either flounder in the world of instant gratification, or they seek meaning in meditation, cults, or religion... american indians increasingly move back to the reservation and to their homeland, away from the cities of alienation, even though they face daunting poverty.

so too with that most alienated of people, the Jews.  We have, tailor-made for us, a wisdom tradition specifically designed to fix a people from the brokennesses of enslavement, colonization, and exile.  and even more remarkable, we've won most of our homeland back!!

 My activism for anarchist and AmerIndian land-rights issues is what led me to israel, eventually; indians asked my friend and i, aren't you jewish? didn't you win your land back? don't you know that that's all we want?  what are you doing here talking to us?

  Look, america is trying to finish off the ethnocentric cult: this is the mission, the crusade, of the ideologies at the heart of the west.  But it's an ideology of emptiness, of relativism, of homelessness, of denial.  Jews in America have a choice: assimilate and seek the future of their human potentials in the bewildering and challenging emptiness of the american ideological world.  Or come home-- to israel, for real, to the land, not to a shul in brooklyn or lakewood.  Jewish life in america will not sustain.  but in the long run, an ideology of emptiness will not sustain either.  come home.  and if you don't like israel the way it is, don't bitch about it, come here to help change it into something worthy of our ideals.





Mischling


So called "Jewish purity" has no place in the 21st Century

A good response, but I agree with mmausner above that "Jewish life in america will not sustain" -- it's only a temporary haven...in the long run the only way is in Israel. Jews are a fractured, broken, homeless, and alienated people, and the ONLY way to begin to repair the wound is to end the exile and return home to Israel.

In America, it's not acceptable to be "ethnically aware" as traditional Judaism supposes its members should be..."White power" and White ethnocentrism largely died out by the 1950s, Black power only lasted about a decade (the 1970s), Mexican nationalism ("La Raza") is rather marginal at best, and thus Jewish ethnocentrism isn't acceptable either. Jewish nationalism ("Zionism") is also rather suspect in America because of accusations of dual loyalty.

In America, ALL are equal before the Constitution ("All [humans] are created equal"), whether White, Black, Jew, or Gentile. This is diamentrically opposed to The Old World (Europe, et al), but in The New World 'Brazilification' is the norm, i.e. we are all just a huge mish-mash of widely differing cultures, races, religions, and so forth, and we all marry and breed with whoever we like/love the most regardless of race/ethnicty, religion, or culture.

Believe it or not, most Jews I've talked to about the subject all say that strict Jewish intermarriage and separation from the so called 'unclean' Gentiles provokes anti-Semitism, just like what happened in pre-WWII Europe...Jews obsessed with "blood purity," totally separated/alienated from the Gentile community (remember: it is THEIR country and Jews are/were merely a 'guest minority'), and so forth. All of this is shattered in The Americas because these places don't belong to any single ethnic or religious group, unlike Europe, the Middle East, Africa, Asia, and so forth.

If a White European wanted to be a White nationalist I'd tell him to return to Ireland or Norway or whatever, and if an African-American was a Black nationalist I'd say he should buy a plane ticket back to the Africa. Same with Jews...if Jews want to be ethnocentric and clannish, Israel is there waiting for you. However, the paranoid, cut off, and highly ethnocentric tendencies of strict diaspora Judaism only deepen the wounds of an already wounded people.

And remember: nearly all of the most revered and accomplished Jews in history were/are "apostates."





Mishling is a Nazi.


Mishling is a disciple of Hitler.

Only a fucking anti-semite would say that Jews are to blame for anti-semitism and the Holocaust. Mishling is saying that anti-semitism will cease when the Jews stop being Jews and become like the rest of the world.
This has some kind of logic because then there would be no more Jews to hate which is what Nazis like Mishling want. What a fucking asshole!
Perserving the Jewish people is not clannish or racist. ITS SURVIVAL! Only anti-semites and Nazis can't see the differnce.





Anonymous


End the melodrama

Mischling said that certain Jewish traits cause antisemitism (extreme ethnocentrism, xenophobia, fanatical separation/Jewish ghettoization, considering Gentiles 'unclean')...don't distort his/her words.





Hitler


American Judaism is dead and it's great!

Joey is right when he says that Judaism is finished in America. My influence is apparent in creating self-hating Jews like Joey. My philosophy of Aryan superority is being embraced by Joey and other Jews. That means less Jewish children and less Jews.

Your ancestors must be so proud that you are married to a shiksa and worship Gentiles. You are a good Nazi Jew. Heil Seil Joey! You make an old Nazi like me proud. Most Jews in the world hate being Jewish and are marrying Goys which is a proud achievement of my legacy.

Thanks for making my dream of a Judenfree world come true. America will be soon be Judenfree. What a celebration that day will be for all us Nazi and Jew-haters, right Joey? Israel will disappear soon and then there will be no more Jews. My goal will be achieved soon with the help of all you Kapos. I will make all of you honoray SS members.

I would have never murdered millions of Jews if they weren't so Jewish. If they had assimilated, intermarried and become Gentiles, I wouldn't have had to kill them. Most people who read this blog understand this. The Jews are to blame for the Holocaust, the pograms, and all the anti-semitism because they refused to conform to what the world finds acceptable. It's good that Jews today understand this and are doing their best to become Gentiles and have perfect Goy children.

I love this blog because it makes me so proud of creating such self-hating, Goy worshipping Kapo Jews. Keep up the good work my fellow Nazis! Heil Hitler! Heil Hitler! Through your actions you have murdered millions, a second Holocaust, of Jewish people and I love you for it.





JewcyCraig


Hitler?

Wow! Hitler! I thought you were dead! Where were you??

This is actually a magazine article, though. Not a blog. 





Joey Kurtzman


Bon Mots!

My favorite parts were when he said "Heil Seil Joey" and "Goy-worshipping Kapo Joe"! In general, the more times I hear "Intermarriage is like Hitler!" the more persuasive I find it.





zbird


If nothing else, Jewcy's

If nothing else, Jewcy's forum has definitely satisfied Godwin's law: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law





Joey Kurtzman


Well, come now

We get a lot of good discussion as well. Alas, such is life on the internetz, and particularly on a Jewish website, that even the most compelling conversation will be punctuated by random shout-downs about somebody being just like Hitler.





Eli Valley


Hi Hitler!

Please create a profile so we can befriend you and you can post events 'n shit.





Hitler


Nazis agree that Intermarriage is persuasive.

Joey, like a good Nazi, supports intermarriage. Good for you! We both want a Judenfree world and we will get our wish soon. I thnk it's great that you have a sense of humour about destruction of the Jewish people. I also laughed when I was throwing Jews into the gas chambers. Ha! Ha! It will be especially funny when there are no more Jews left.
You probably shout. "Heil Hitler" "Heil Hitler" when you screw your ugly shiksa wife. Gentiles are so much better than the dirty low-life Jews. Thanks for making the Jews irrevalent and extinct.
I will make a profile soon because I have a lot of followers here in this great anti-semitic Nazi-loving blog. Keep up the good work in promoting the genocide of the killing the Jewish people. Heil Seil!





David Strauss


Hitler, your German sucks.

"Heil Seil!"

Hail the rope? Perhaps you mean "Sieg Heil," as in "Hail victory." Your trolling posts just lack that extra effort that's necessary for offensive authenticity. I'm disappointed in you.





mmausner


hitler was right...

I did my BA in History at Yale on the museum that the Nazis were building to memorialize the Jews, in Prague, so this happens to be a subject I'm somewhat expert in...  The Nazis were absolutely right about certain aspects of Jewish identity.  They recognized that maintaining Jewish identity in the face of modern nationalism created an inevitable conflict of interest; they recognized that Jewish identity in general, praying to Jerusalem, created a situation where the 'locals' wherever they were would mistrust Jews because Jews weren't truly invested in the land and permanence in those places. 

And most odd, the Nazis recognized Jewish morality was genuinely opposed to the Aryan morality they espoused, and when they were building the museum, they brought Jews to create the dioramas of Jewish life-cycle events-- and didn't even edit!! they just thought it would be self-evident that the Jews' life-affirming morality would be seen as a 'slave' morality by the new Germans, even without captions!!

The Nazis were right about many things.  They were just wrong about many MORE things, including insane, apocalyptic racism, genocide, and a few more quirks.





Anonymous


unpleasant encounter with orthodox jews

A couple of years ago I went into a Jewish bookstore in Silver
Spring MD - just to browse (at that time- I was interested in Avraham
Abulafia)- and when the owner of the store took one look at me - I
could tell he was somehow upset by my presence - (even though
I could probably pass for a Sephardic Jew)....something about his body
language froze up. Later - as I went to the cash register to pay (his wife or daugter was there) and sensing her discomfort (she seemed to back away) - I put the money down on the counter. Then she extended one arm - without
getting one millimeter closer ot the counter- and grabbed the money. I was wondering when she was going to pull out one of those gadgets people
use to pick up trash on the street.....the one with the 6-ft. extension.





JewcyCraig


Irrevalent

Lacking any valid new arguments against Hitler's posting, I would just like to point out his use of the word "irrevalent" gave me the impression that Hitler might actually be a cartoon dog created by the Hanna-Barbara Corporation. I wanna hear him say he's having "pasghetti and mamatoes" for dinner.





Anonymous


wait a minute...

I thought Hitler was dead?





JewcyCraig


-What the!

Oh dear God..!





Post new comment

  • Allowed HTML tags: <a> <em> <i> <strong> <strike> <b> <cite> <code> <u> <ul> <ol> <li> <dl> <dt> <dd> <p> <br> <img> <blockquote>
  • Lines and paragraphs break automatically.
  • Images can be added to this post.

More information about formatting options

Captcha
This question is for testing whether you are a human visitor and to prevent automated spam submissions.
Copy the characters (respecting upper/lower case) from the image.