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DAILY SHVITZ
Norway's National Anthem Neo-Nazi Theme Song?

Nordreich, a Neo-Nazi group that is gaining ground in Europe, employed Norway's national anthem, "Ja Vi Elsker" as background music to accompany their 2-minute clip (on Youtube) which features a montage of Europe's major cities with superimposed Nazi symbols.

Said Foreign Ministry Information Adviser Odd Naustdal said of the incident:

We will contact YouTube and ask them to remove the video.

C'est tout? Once again, Nordic people prove that they are indeed the superior race with no balls.


Beth Gottfried Lisogorsky is a professional blogger whose work has appeared on numerous sites from Rotten Tomatoes to PopMatters. She loves film, TV (yes "the boob tube"), and music and has critiqued on all three. In 2004, she published a book


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Max Bell


Crawling back to paganism like a dog to vomit...

Once again, Nordic people prove that they are indeed the superior race with no balls.

So, what you're saying is that Nordic people are inherently antisemitic? Like maybe I should be trying to shove myself into an oven? Since Comcast STILL hates this web site, I had to dig out the video myself -- and in doing so, discovered that Nordreich is, in so far as I could tell, just a race rock band and a video gaming clan. My complaint against race rock (or what passes as death metal, for that matter) is that, like Christian rock, it sucks fat buckets of necrotic donkey cock. Give me some old-school Slayer or, shit, even Deathklöck any day.

Not to single you out, Beth -- there's a degree of obsession with antisemitism in the writing here on a much broader scope -- but race politics is a sucker's game.

And it's ironic as fuck to see somebody try to fight antisemitism by smearing another race. It's an easy trap -- the modern mind is for shit when it comes to drawing generalizations -- but the only thing that can be done about it is to try to improve. Myself, I prefer this kind of thing out in the open where it can fall apart under it's own lack of merit -- posting it here is free publicity.





Anonymous


Nordreich Aren't Nazis.

Our 'group' (clan, alliance, etc.) is based in a popular online nation simulator/Role playing game called cybernations; located at http://www.cybernations.net. The game consists of tens of thousands of players, of which participate in several player created alliances of all different types of affiliations, be they conservative, communist, nationalist, libertarian, or "far right". It is for the sake of fun gaming that such political diversity exists in the game, for the sake of 'role playing', as politics are heavy in the alliance politics that keep the game running between all of these player created groups.

It may come as a suprise to you, that Nordreich is one of these in game alliances. We are a fictional organization comprised mainly of political minded teenagers that harbor a conservative/nationalist/european pride ideology; with a few exceptions to the rule; even non european peoples with a nationalist mindset are welcome to the alliance.

It is in no way whatsoever that we are a real life based, neo nazi organization. We are fictitious and exist in an in game setting only. We are not based in Germany, we are multi national, with members all over the world; even Norway. So there is no conspiracy to recruit people on the internet to some sort of real life far right political movement, although, in character, in the game, we recruit online to our in game alliance; by means of YouTube recruitment (you should have seen the tags in our video which said 'cybernations alliance', that may have saved us from international media headlines), which practically all cybernations alliances use; and in game private messaging, forum thread recruitment.

The video in question, despite being accused of being propaganda for a real life neo nazi movement (which I have just disproved in the aforementioned paragraph), in fact, contained absolutely no 'nazi' imagery other than the girls in Stahlhelms, which was taken from a popular german film known as 'Der Untergang'; which was only included for the sake of professing our militant germanic nationalism (once again, in character), which also apply to the iron crosses featured in the film. What you labeled 'Hitler's Fleet' was in fact the American Navy from past times. We have done nothing wrong with this video, and would appreciate for now on, if you take the phrase 'investigative journalism' a bit more literally before making ludicrous assumptions and accusations in highly publicized newspaper articles, with absolutely no basis whatsoever. Good job there. *wink wink*

We have absolutely no connection with the German black metal band 'Nordreich', who we unintentionally, coincidentally used the name of, and only later discovered was a band via googling. If this is where the 'german based' assumption comes from, then it has just been disproved.

The national anthem was used due to the fact that it is Norwegian, therefore Germanic, and therefore fitting with our portrayal of germanic nationalism. Your foreign ministry has taken it's usage out of context by jumping to these conclusions, as it was used in a totally harmless way that bore no ill intentions to the image of your country. We used it because we are fond of Norway and it's people (ones with brains), and wanted to use it in our video. The song was recommended by a nationalist korean member with germanic nationalist sympathies for your information. We broke no laws here, and since we practice freedom of speech in America (a practice outlawed long ago in central/northern europe) we have the right to use whatever song or speech we wish. We are willing to cooperate to an extent that is reasonable, but we are not willing to be pushed around by socialists pursuing their agenda of playing thought police on computer games, perhaps there are more important issues in the world for a national government to attend to?

If you wish we will make the video more clear in it's message, clearly stating that it is a cybernations alliance recruitment film in the description, but we see no need for it's removal. We will cooperate only within the bounds of sanity, without politically correct, trigger happy nationalist hunters and their insane, irrational terms.

I will now allow you to sit back and realize your mistake, whether you laugh out loud at the fact that you have been made fools of, whether you insist on denying our report out of stubborn pride, or whether you just stay silent, just think rationally and end this before it gets unecessarily out of hand.

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

Nordreich

^goes back to listening to Maroon 5*





Anonymous


Nordreich Aren't Nazis.

Our 'group' (clan, alliance, etc.) is based in a popular online nation simulator/Role playing game called cybernations; located at http://www.cybernations.net. The game consists of tens of thousands of players, of which participate in several player created alliances of all different types of affiliations, be they conservative, communist, nationalist, libertarian, or "far right". It is for the sake of fun gaming that such political diversity exists in the game, for the sake of 'role playing', as politics are heavy in the alliance politics that keep the game running between all of these player created groups.

It may come as a suprise to you, that Nordreich is one of these in game alliances. We are a fictional organization comprised mainly of political minded teenagers that harbor a conservative/nationalist/european pride ideology; with a few exceptions to the rule; even non european peoples with a nationalist mindset are welcome to the alliance.

It is in no way whatsoever that we are a real life based, neo nazi organization. We are fictitious and exist in an in game setting only. We are not based in Germany, we are multi national, with members all over the world; even Norway. So there is no conspiracy to recruit people on the internet to some sort of real life far right political movement, although, in character, in the game, we recruit online to our in game alliance; by means of YouTube recruitment (you should have seen the tags in our video which said 'cybernations alliance', that may have saved us from international media headlines), which practically all cybernations alliances use; and in game private messaging, forum thread recruitment.

The video in question, despite being accused of being propaganda for a real life neo nazi movement (which I have just disproved in the aforementioned paragraph), in fact, contained absolutely no 'nazi' imagery other than the girls in Stahlhelms, which was taken from a popular german film known as 'Der Untergang'; which was only included for the sake of professing our militant germanic nationalism (once again, in character), which also apply to the iron crosses featured in the film. What you labeled 'Hitler's Fleet' was in fact the American Navy from past times. We have done nothing wrong with this video, and would appreciate for now on, if you take the phrase 'investigative journalism' a bit more literally before making ludicrous assumptions and accusations in highly publicized newspaper articles, with absolutely no basis whatsoever. Good job there. *wink wink*

We have absolutely no connection with the German black metal band 'Nordreich', who we unintentionally, coincidentally used the name of, and only later discovered was a band via googling. If this is where the 'german based' assumption comes from, then it has just been disproved.

The national anthem was used due to the fact that it is Norwegian, therefore Germanic, and therefore fitting with our portrayal of germanic nationalism. Your foreign ministry has taken it's usage out of context by jumping to these conclusions, as it was used in a totally harmless way that bore no ill intentions to the image of your country. We used it because we are fond of Norway and it's people (ones with brains), and wanted to use it in our video. The song was recommended by a nationalist korean member with germanic nationalist sympathies for your information. We broke no laws here, and since we practice freedom of speech in America (a practice outlawed long ago in central/northern europe) we have the right to use whatever song or speech we wish. We are willing to cooperate to an extent that is reasonable, but we are not willing to be pushed around by socialists pursuing their agenda of playing thought police on computer games, perhaps there are more important issues in the world for a national government to attend to?

If you wish we will make the video more clear in it's message, clearly stating that it is a cybernations alliance recruitment film in the description, but we see no need for it's removal. We will cooperate only within the bounds of sanity, without politically correct, trigger happy nationalist hunters and their insane, irrational terms.

I will now allow you to sit back and realize your mistake, whether you laugh out loud at the fact that you have been made fools of, whether you insist on denying our report out of stubborn pride, or whether you just stay silent, just think rationally and end this before it gets unecessarily out of hand.

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

Nordreich

^goes back to listening to Maroon 5*





Anonymous


They aren't nazis

I myself am a jew, and I do cybernations. I can tell you right now that those who claim that Nordreich is a neo-nazi organization is crazy, and taken out of context.

Nordreich is a pro-Germanic alliance, and Norway has no clue what they are talking about. Many jews are of German decent, myself included, and I at least take no offence from Nordreich's pro-Germanic stance.

Need I remind Norway-It's just a game.





Max Bell


Heh-heh!

There you have it, Beth -- a retraction or defense of some kind are in order (an apology to the group would probably be reasonably professional as well).





Joey Kurtzman


You must admit...

All I know is that I had an ex-girlfriend who was a Norwegian Jew, and in retrospect I find her beneath contempt, and it's not like I'm blaming all Norwegians, or all Jews, but I don't think anyone comes out smelling very well, and though I'm not saying anyone is a Nazi, I do think, you know, if the shoe fits...





Max Bell


Yup.

Life demands Lysol. That's a fact!





Joey Kurtzman


Life Demands Lysol

Thank you for responding, Max! I got a great deal of pleasure out of my above post. More than is reasonable. It actually gets better upon each reading, too. The best part is the title! though of course you must read of the post before you can appreciate it.

Everyone gets so excited about Chomsky's 50 year-old sentence, "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously," they still think it's such a neat demonstration of the fact that a sentence can be 100% grammatical and yet totally meaningless. But utter meaninglessness is easy, today all the most exciting work is being done on sentences that are both grammatical AND meaningful, but "purposefully" incoherent, that is incoherent but seeded with contextually appropriate cues. Steiner has done some excellent work on this. 





Max Bell


Manamanop!

No, really.

Who is Steiner?

Word choice is EVERYTHING.

(Proxy traffic doth vex me! This would have been a much longer post but it keeps timing out.)





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