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| Ms. magazine claims they're against favoritism. The American Jewish Congress claims they're against Israel. | |
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by Helen Jupiter, January 11, 2008
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Riddle me this: What do you think would happen if the Center for American Women in Politics attempted to take out an ad in Ms. magazine featuring three female senators? Say they chose photos of Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, and Kay Bailey Hutchison, along with the text: "This is America." Do you think that the magazine's executive editor, Kathy Spillar, would reject the ad on the basis of editorial "favoritism" because two of the three women belong to the same political party? I suppose it's possible, although it is hard to imagine.
Not so hard to imagine is the parallel reality that's unfolding as I type: Ms. magazine has rejected this ad, for that stated reason:
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Helen Jupiter is the Managing Editor in these parts. A writer based in Los Angeles, she has contributed to Gridskipper, More... |
Roi Ben-Yehuda
page out of Maxim
We have reached the dark day in which Ms can take a page out of Maxim (literally) and learn a thing or two about inclusiveness.
Not that I read either - Although I once did give Gloria Steinem directions in a subway :)
Anonymous
I would have sent Ms.
I would have sent Ms. Steinem directions to hell.
Hillary will have to distance herself from Steinem or she will lose the Jewish women's vote.
Anonymous
Unfortunate decision
Ms magazine has certainly alienated a significant subgroup of their constituency.
Athens
Curious ad
This is a curious ad. What exactly is its point? It's a well-accepted fact that Israel acknowledges women's rights. And it's not like American feminists haven't heard of Golda Meir. If this were an ad with 3 politically prominent Saudi women pictured with "This is Saudi Arabia" in large print, yeah, that defintely would send a message.
According to the article you linked, Ms. has already published a two-page spread on one of women, so I don't understand how Ms. is being "anti-Israeli" by not accepting this ad. What if they accepted the ad but rejected the idea of publishing a two-page story on any female Israeli politician? Something tells me that there is more to this story.
I got a chance to meet Ms. Steinem, too. She's a cool chick, even though she went to Smith. ;)
nicolebeth
Not surprised...
I've always felt that Ms. Magazine has animosity towards Israel. Typically, Israel will be mentioned in each issue in the list of countries that have done wrong that month. Rachel Corrie was listed as one of Ms. Magazine's heroic women.
Ismail
nicolebeth seems put out
nicolebeth seems put out that "Rachel Corrie was listed as one of Ms. Magazine's heroic women."
I'm no particular fan of Ms. magazine, but, gee, let's see....young advantaged American woman goes to an immiserated and besieged part of the world, where she non-violently fights against the everyday atrocities borne by the luckless locals. In an effort to prevent the razing of an innocent family's home, she is killed by the operator of the bulldozer involved in this criminal outrage.
I'd say Ms. got it right.
Anonymous
Ismail, very predictable...
Wow Ismail, your comments are always so negative and self righteous. You don't contribute anything beyond criticism in the form of snippy, angry, sarcastic commentary which is predictable and uninteresting. You must be a pleasure to be around... yeah, stick to cyberspace, it's your medium baby.
Ismail
Well, Anonymous (if that
Well, Anonymous (if that really is your name), let's see if we can examine your remarks a bit and provide a little illumination.
1. "...your comments are always so negative and self righteous."
Seems to me I was supporting the notion that Corrie is rightly regarded as a heroine. I suppose if one fears having the barbarity of her killer's behavior brought to light again, this support may be viewed as negative, but not all of us are apologists for Israeli transgression. As for self-righteous, I believe that's code for, "firmly convinced of the correctness of my belief and untroubled that some of my interlocutors may be angered that I utter it", in which case I plead guilty.
2. "You don't contribute anything beyond criticism in the form of snippy, angry, sarcastic commentary which is predictable and uninteresting."
First, that's simply untrue. I've contributed a number of lengthier and more content-rich comments over the months, but in this case, I was responding to one sentence from nicolebeth and I thought a brief and snarky reply was most appropriate. Secondly, snippy and sarcastic are the coin of the realm in these parts, or hadn't you noticed? I agree that my tone is angrier than some, but I think of that as authenticity, since the casual disregard around here for the suffering that Israel has caused to so many makes me angry. Anyway, this is the east coast-there's no privilege for the whole-wheat sunniness and tofu torpor so admired out west. "Angry" isn't a dirty word to me.
As for predictable, I think you mean that I'm consistent in my belief that Israeli injustice is sufficiently troubling to require that it be pointed out regularly. Uninteresting? Well, that's your call.
3. "You must be a pleasure to be around... "
Maybe we're not so far apart after all. I think of myself as kind of cranky and rigid, but my wife and daughter seem to tolerate me OK, and I'm blessed to have a decent number of friends, professional colleagues, lovely neighbors, all of whom appear to overlook those troubling traits that you and I recognize so clearly. I guess there's a charming bastard lurking in there somewhere.
On the other hand, my dog just won't listen to me at all, so you and she would probably have lots to talk about.
Anonymous
If that's really your name....
Wow, you're really quite fabulous "Isamil". So glad to know that you're lovely.
nicolebeth
response
I don't have anything against Rachel Corrie, and simply stated that she was selected in that category. My point is that Ms. can speak about Ms. Corrie having been heroic, whereas Israeli women do not seem to achieve the same heroic status. That said, I've been subscribing to Ms. for only two years. Perhaps, prior to this, there were accounts of Israeli women acting in a heroic fashion.
Anonymous
Ismail is an Islamicfacist who spreads lies about Israel.
Just ignore this Jew-hater, he wants a reaction to his Hamas propaganda crap. Everything he writes are lies so why even pay attenion to the Jew-obssessed nut job.
Rachel Corrie was a member of the Ism, a group that supports terror against Jews and the destruction of Israel. She wrote about how she great suicide bombings were. She also wrote that the "poor" Arabs were justified in murdering Jewish children. She was defending a house that harbored terrorists when she went in front of an IDF buldozer and committed suicide for the Arabs. The teenage IDF soldier driver never saw her. For Ismail to claim that this was a deliberate murder is pure blood libel. I'm sad to learn that this hatemonger terrorist- supporter has a wife and daughter. I fear for their safety.
Ismail
nicolebeth- Glad to hear
nicolebeth- Glad to hear that you've got nothing against Corrie. But I'm puzzled that you compare her having been honored by Ms. to the absence of Israeli women receiving similar mention. Corrie was an American woman, after all. Are you saying that Americans shouldn't be honored unless Israelis are as well? Have any Palestinian women been so honored? What if Ms. were to honor Israeli women like Shulamit Aloni? Amira Hass? Tanya Reinhart?
Unless I miss my guess, it's not the nationality of the woman you're focussed on, it's her politics. I don't mean to speak for you, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you'd be satisfied if the Israeli woman Ms. chose to salute embraced the highly critical, left wing beliefs of those I mentioned. Do you suppose that, if an Israeli woman belonging to the ISM were killed instead of Corrie, Ms. would ignore her b/c of her nationality?
If I'm right, then your problem is that Ms. doesn't endorse a particular strain of political sentiment in Israel, not that it doesn't honor Israeli women per se. Again, I'm speculating about your meaning here, and would welcome your correction.
Anon- Don't trouble yourself for a minute; my wife and kid are fine. It's that fucking dog that needs to watch her step if she wants to avoid a fatwa.
(By the way, anyone know if you can be an "Islamicfascist" if you're not a Muslim?)
Anonymous
Rachel Corrie is to the
Rachel Corrie is to the anti-Israel movement what Horst Wessel was to the Nazi movement. Horst Wessel was a nazi pimp who got killed in a "business dispute". The Nazis idolized him. Similarly, Rachel Corrie was trying to make Gaza safe for terrorists and facilitate the delivery of explosives into Israel. She got killed in the line of business too.
Hatred of Jews has occupational hazards too. I look forward to an article from Ms on the benefitis of female circumcision
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