Ignoring this denigrating "discussion" for the moment, it's clear to me what the larger problem is. The problem, my friends, is governments and their habit of interfering with the daily lives of normal people. Despite what Iran's idiot leadership says, I have no more malice towards Iran's people than I do towards fellow U.S. citizens whose own idiot government just doesn't talk about killing perfectly innocent strangers, but actually does it. I don't want to see Iranians, or North Koreans, or Venezuelans, or Cubans, or any other enemy du jour, blown away because of perceived threats to interests of governing elites. Eliminate governing elites, both here and abroad, and these so-called security problems will go away. Do people really think that Muslims hate Jews, and vice versa, because of differences in religion? Of course not! Much of the hatred exists because people are manipulated by elites into hating The Other, as a tool for protecting the interests of power concentrated into the hands of the few. Let us govern ourselves and not only will the violence among nations diminish (as will the concept of the nation itself), but as an added side benefit, know-nothing mouthpieces-for-power like Michael Freund will have to find a real job!

Mark my words, Freund: Bomb Iran and Israel will only sow more seeds of self-destruction.