Eddy, my nerd lexicon is so vast, pulls from so many different and disparate realms of miserable, pathetic obsession, that even a guy with a crazy twisted-up red pepper thing at his nose couldn't hang. Anyway, I share your contempt for hippie bullshit and chattering-class snobbery masquerading as progressivism! But aren't you an old Yiddish socialist? So why the naturalistic fallacy? Yes, we're brutes who've eaten meat throughout our evolutionary history...we've also got a solid history of exploiting the proles and squeezing the peasants and dashing the heads of the little ones against rocks. But to the extent that we can stop doing these things, why such a tongue-lashing for the effort?