Tamar took a random collection of facts and tried to make a comment about trends in each of these very different Jewish populations.
Being an Orthodox Israeli (who's also, gasp, a mom!) I have to say the "bright spots" Tamar pointed out are either really out of date or so superficial, they really don't say much about anything. If this is Jewcy's idea of being "hip and today" sorry, this really misses the mark.
JOFA, as has been pointed out, is pretty marginal and never managed to make a real impact on the lives of Orthodox women, despite their yearly seminars. All you can come up with for Jewish education is Midreshet Lindenbaum and Drisha? What about all of the modern Orthodox day schools in North America teaching Orthodox girls Torah, including Tanach, Mishna, Gemara and Midrash on a daily basis, and the dozens of other seminaries in Israel doing likewise? ML is 30 years old and Drisha is for college and post college women. That's the best you can do? You couldn't be bothered to google "Modern Orthodox" "girls" and "education"? Too hard on the fingers?
As for the "sthtetl mold"? WTF? I grew up Orthodox in a comfortable modern suburb in Fairfield County CT. Sorry, no chickens or dirt roads in sight. Most MO people grew up the same way. Your generalization just illustrates how little you really bothered to look into this topic. You made some cute points that sound like you spoke to 3 people about Orthodoxy, two of whom are probably Conservative.
As for Israel, much of the above paragraph applies here as well.
"Israeli cultural capitol still nudges women back into the home and
towards traditional child-rearing roles, though slow improvements are
being made."
Have you actually SPOKEN to any Israeli mothers? Again, wtf? Most Israeli mothers are in the workforce, contrary to their pampered American counterparts. We don't have any "opting out" revolution here. Thanks to our affordable day care and the many 3/4 and even full time jobs that are designed for mothers (there are many jobs here that run from 8 am-4 pm and provide a great deal of flex time for sick days, etc.) and not to mention our 3 month paid maternity, most Israeli women are happily in the workforce. We don't have SAHMs here. The few women who do stay home are looked at as oddities. Because of this, we don't have that whole stupid working mom vs. SAHM war. WMs won, quite a while ago.
Also, can you please define what an "Israeli cultural capitol" is? The cultural capitol of Israel could arguably be defined as Tel Aviv. Sorry, no one in Tel Aviv is encouraging any woman to stay home. (Even assuming you meant "cultural capital" that sentence still doesn't make a whole lot of sense)
Seriously, this was a nice idea, but try doing some real research before posting a few glib bullet points.
jujubee
Yeah, Faith, pretty out of context
Tamar took a random collection of facts and tried to make a comment about trends in each of these very different Jewish populations.
Being an Orthodox Israeli (who's also, gasp, a mom!) I have to say the "bright spots" Tamar pointed out are either really out of date or so superficial, they really don't say much about anything. If this is Jewcy's idea of being "hip and today" sorry, this really misses the mark.
JOFA, as has been pointed out, is pretty marginal and never managed to make a real impact on the lives of Orthodox women, despite their yearly seminars. All you can come up with for Jewish education is Midreshet Lindenbaum and Drisha? What about all of the modern Orthodox day schools in North America teaching Orthodox girls Torah, including Tanach, Mishna, Gemara and Midrash on a daily basis, and the dozens of other seminaries in Israel doing likewise? ML is 30 years old and Drisha is for college and post college women. That's the best you can do? You couldn't be bothered to google "Modern Orthodox" "girls" and "education"? Too hard on the fingers?
As for the "sthtetl mold"? WTF? I grew up Orthodox in a comfortable modern suburb in Fairfield County CT. Sorry, no chickens or dirt roads in sight. Most MO people grew up the same way. Your generalization just illustrates how little you really bothered to look into this topic. You made some cute points that sound like you spoke to 3 people about Orthodoxy, two of whom are probably Conservative.
As for Israel, much of the above paragraph applies here as well.
"Israeli cultural capitol still nudges women back into the home and
towards traditional child-rearing roles, though slow improvements are
being made."
Have you actually SPOKEN to any Israeli mothers? Again, wtf? Most Israeli mothers are in the workforce, contrary to their pampered American counterparts. We don't have any "opting out" revolution here. Thanks to our affordable day care and the many 3/4 and even full time jobs that are designed for mothers (there are many jobs here that run from 8 am-4 pm and provide a great deal of flex time for sick days, etc.) and not to mention our 3 month paid maternity, most Israeli women are happily in the workforce. We don't have SAHMs here. The few women who do stay home are looked at as oddities. Because of this, we don't have that whole stupid working mom vs. SAHM war. WMs won, quite a while ago.
Also, can you please define what an "Israeli cultural capitol" is? The cultural capitol of Israel could arguably be defined as Tel Aviv. Sorry, no one in Tel Aviv is encouraging any woman to stay home. (Even assuming you meant "cultural capital" that sentence still doesn't make a whole lot of sense)
Seriously, this was a nice idea, but try doing some real research before posting a few glib bullet points.