What I said was that Seraph's figures do not match the data I see every day. That's all. His figures were astounding--72 to 82 percent of Jews not having children? And that doesn't seem extreme to you? Okay--and we might even live in the same southern city. And since when is ending a sentence with a question mark an assertion. I think it's a question. That's why I used the question mark.
What you implied is that Jewish kids born to Jews tend to leave the faith--because...if your hypothesis isn't that Jewish education is in shambles, then that's my mistake. So how do you explain this mini-reverse-exodus. Or if you accept Seraph's figures, this major-reverse-exodus?
My theory is that Jewish education is terrible, creates no interest or understanding, no sense of self. It's time better spent in front of the television, because the results are the same. I am aware of the correlation between higher education and lower birthrates--but 82 percent (question mark)?
And why do you criticize me for drawing implications when you did it yourself (question mark)? I did no such thing as to advance the 'less secular schooling' argument. I don't even believe in it. My kids go to secular schools--and I'm not thrilled with that either. Have you ever looked through a second, third, or fourth grade math book (question mark)? It's not the teachers, it's this slow curriculum (finally, a statement).
I sent my first child to a Day school, where they taught her to, essentially, hate Gd. Come Bat Mitzvah time, I just asked her what her conception of Gd was. A jaw-dropping answer.
You spent two paragraphs responding to something I didn't even say. I would suggest asking more questions to clarify before you respond. But that's only a suggestion.
naftali
Oh Goodness, Get the Smileys Out
What I said was that Seraph's figures do not match the data I see every day. That's all. His figures were astounding--72 to 82 percent of Jews not having children? And that doesn't seem extreme to you? Okay--and we might even live in the same southern city. And since when is ending a sentence with a question mark an assertion. I think it's a question. That's why I used the question mark.
What you implied is that Jewish kids born to Jews tend to leave the faith--because...if your hypothesis isn't that Jewish education is in shambles, then that's my mistake. So how do you explain this mini-reverse-exodus. Or if you accept Seraph's figures, this major-reverse-exodus?
My theory is that Jewish education is terrible, creates no interest or understanding, no sense of self. It's time better spent in front of the television, because the results are the same. I am aware of the correlation between higher education and lower birthrates--but 82 percent (question mark)?
And why do you criticize me for drawing implications when you did it yourself (question mark)? I did no such thing as to advance the 'less secular schooling' argument. I don't even believe in it. My kids go to secular schools--and I'm not thrilled with that either. Have you ever looked through a second, third, or fourth grade math book (question mark)? It's not the teachers, it's this slow curriculum (finally, a statement).
I sent my first child to a Day school, where they taught her to, essentially, hate Gd. Come Bat Mitzvah time, I just asked her what her conception of Gd was. A jaw-dropping answer.
You spent two paragraphs responding to something I didn't even say. I would suggest asking more questions to clarify before you respond. But that's only a suggestion.