Before anyone calls me Islamophobic, I’ll point out that America’s Muslim immigrant population is amongst the country’s most hard-working. I’m not mentioning this out of cowardice

Of course you are. What alleged hard-workingness of US Moslems has to do with riots in Paris? Because unmasking "youth" rioters in France as Moslims you feel you need a cover?

At the end you are not much better than all those (dis)information sources you list.

Why do blithering idiots post knee-jerk rhetoric?

"They (insert group of choice) are so hard-working and this and that, etc."

What parameters are being used to ascertain how "hard" that group is working? Any scientific measurement?

How about working smarter vice harder? There's surely a multitude of hard-working folks across the world living in horrid poverty. What's so great about working hard if the end result is negligible results?

I saw a crew of five Mexican illegal alens doing floor-care work. When I did the job I accomplished more than those five and the end result was superior. Those 5 loafed and barely worked...so I suppose following the logic of extrapolating from the few I can proclaim all illegal alien Mexicans are lazy!!!!!

Even if Muslims on the whole were hard-working...should the USA import millions more so as to dilute the western culture even more? What about the opposite...how about those possessing the general western culture emigrating to Islam-dominated countries and start living there? How would WE be treated.

It is time to take a stand and preserve our way of life.

The French republic is predicated on "Frenchness" which is as much an acceptance of republican values as being a descendant of the Franks or Gauls or whoever.  Witness Leon Blum or even the Hungarian Sarkozy.

How much the French have allowed for the non-"French" to assimilate into France is a matter of debate, but from images I saw on the BBC and such there were very few Asian faces.  Perhaps Vietnamese and Cambodians have had an easier time assimilating into French society and have been able to accept republican values.

It may be that the Africans and Buers don't want to accept values like "laciete"(secularism) but do want French welfare.  Maybe the French are just racists and don't allow arabs and blacks to join French society.  I have not seen any hard data, though this may be because French republicanism frowns upon dividing society by ethnic origin or race so they don't collect this kind of data. 

When I think of the French I am reminded of a line from the movie Buckaroo Banzai in which the alien leader John Warfin calls John Big Bootie "The biggest coward I ever know"   It's same here with the French.  We rescued these clowns from becoming good little Nazi's and now it seems they are incapable of defending themselves from more fascists right in their midst. This lawless behavior by obvious Islamic fascists must be given the same treatment as the Nazis got when we drove them out of France.  It seems weird that a country that has one the most elite fighting forces in the world, i.e. the French Foreign Legion, should have no spine when it comes to dealing with domestic terrorists like these despicable Islamic fanatics who grab every excuse to try and burn down France.

"Pssst! The Newark rioters were Black! Oh, sure, they were young and poor and disenfranchised, too, but they just don't want to work like other Americans; they're just looking for handouts and refuse to join the mainstream..", etc, ad nauseam. The minimally attentive reader will discern the similarity between these racist tropes many may recall hearing over the Thanksgiving table in years past and the opinions of the doughty Greenwald, alerting us all to the pact between the compliant US media and the unquenchably bloodthirsty Muslims who have Sulzberger et al in thrall. 

 "I suspect the first name situation reflects something more than respect for the dead."

Right, there's the NYT, well-known to be an absolute roundheels when it comes to Muslims, protecting delicate Islamic sensibilities by deliberately concealing the religious affiliations of these perps. Greenwald has obviously been burying his nose in the Protocols of the Elders of the Caliphate again, where such treasonous bargains between supine American journalists and the wily Musselman are bravely revealed.

  "I’m not saying the rioters are jihadists, but it requires a commitment to ignorance not to sniff out the familiar in these words of one rioter: “This is war. There is no mercy. We want at least two policemen dead.” "

Perhaps Greenwald is not merely puerile, but literally too young to recall that such testosterone-fueled bravado was de rigueur for rioting youths (sic) of all religious and ethnic persuasions during the '60's and early '70's. But if one is determined to unmask the perfidious hand of the Prophet in whatever calamity catches his attention, the obvious explanation can appear exotic and unlikely.

 "Before anyone calls me Islamophobic..."

Too late. 

Statistics show muslims are responsible for 80% of all armed conflicts in the world. They are responsible for almost all terrorism in the world. And yes, they're responsible for almost all crime in Europe, so let's mention Muslims when we talk about the common link between all horror stories in the world, whether it's 200 lashes for being raped in saudi arabia, riots over cartoons, death threats over naming a teddy bear mohammed in sudan, 9/11, the death penalty for apostasy in Afghanistan, or women being murdered for not wearing the burqa in Iraq.

Your pathetic attempt to blame it on poverty or whatever does a disservice to poor immigrants everywhere who nevertheless adjusted and prospered, including the Chinese, Koreans, Irish, Italians, etc, etc. I also somehow don't recall during the Great Depression rioting americans burning all the cars and shooting police because they were poor---even though 1/3 of the entire country was unemployed.

And yes, let's talk about the blacks, since they're the cause of half the crime in America. Do you really want to go there? Do you really think that you instantly win an argument by saying "we could say that of blacks too?" I think you're drawing a parallel quite different from your intent. If muslims are like blacks, then blacks are like muslims. And that, my friend, simply damns two groups instead of one.

"Statistics show muslims are responsible for 80% of all armed conflicts in the world."

 Thank you for introducing us to the Incomparable Ninny Assessment, a metric which reliably allows the intelligent reader to safely ignore an opinion such as yours. By beginning your comment with such an unmitigated howler as the one cited above, you generously spare your audience the need to spend even a millisecond on further exploration of your "thoughts".

 In today's hectic and overscheduled world, any measure which forewarns us of the empty and inane is most welcome.

Thanks again for your selfless efforts. 

Same silence in French medias. But i'm a French guy i can assure you that most of rioters are muslims.

Few sites says the truth about the events :

http://grouik-grouik.org/9/2007/11/intifada-de-villiers-le-bel-ou-lart-d...

He propose to send letters to say "psssst" to people (politician, inhabitants of Villiers, policemen) who just say "I DON'T UNDERSTAND" (that's what we heard the most here ! lol)

mik-infidelos, are you going to let Ismail contradict you like that??? Am I a cowardly apologist for Islamists like you say or an Islamophobe as he'd have it?

You might be surprised to know that the USA are hosting one of the responsibles of the rioting in Villiers Le Bel.

He is working in Washington D.C. You'll find who he is here (in french) : http://www.claude-ribbe.com/dotclear/index.php?2007/11/27/15-racisme-la-guerilla-aux-portes-de-paris

In addition you will have the best description of the accident i've found on the internet, when in France journalists and police are still triffling about what exactly happened to explain the impressive damages to the police car.

For those who do not read french, the man is Dominique Strauss-Kahn, head of the International Money Fund.

If you have any doubt, just have a look to his picture here : http://www.sarcelles.fr/heading/heading564.html

His portrait is the second one, reading :
First after the mayor
President of the community of the towns of Val-de-France
Deputy of Val d'Oise Villiers-le-bel is in department of Val d'Oise

Dominique Strauss-Kahn is deputy of Villiers-le-bel, and above all he was elected as president of the group of the main towns of the departement (a group called "Val de France"). You see the result...
Light a candle for him to have better results with the IMF.

Know in addition that when leaving for the USA, he gave his seat to a communist, the mayor of Sarcelles (portrait on top of him) a town close and similar to Villiers-le-bel.

There is no mystery : the socialist policy is pro-immigration, to let the immigrant come, grow, build mosquees etc. and do whatever they want, including not respecting the law. That way they will vote for the socialists.
The socialist party even have the project to give the right to vote to those who are NOT french !

The socialist party does NOT care if there is unemployment, if the immigrants fit into the society : they can be unemployed and riot the towns, the socialists don't care as long as they vote for them who will give then more and more free social money, free health system, free dental care, free housing, free hallal food in the public schools and so on to have them to continue to vote socialist.
"Everything on the house, rich people will be taxed to pay" should be the name instead of "socialist".

Now, regarding the accusations of "racisme" and of "creating a ghetto" toward the french "white" in the french article : the ghetto was CREATED by those immigrants themselves, pushing all the decent people, white or kligon or whatever you want, to leave and escape their agressivity, their ramadan during night etc.
About "racisme" of the police : the police do watch more the kind of people who are very much involved with violence facts than those who are less involved. That is not "racisme", that's pure logic.
Discrimination on jobs ? Sorry but when you do not speak a decent french, and even have no idea of the french culture, there is no mystery if you have more difficulties to find a job than an average french.

At last, know that the bodies of the two victims will be sent to Senegal for one and Morocco for the other by their parents to be buried "in their countries" (in fact to be buried following islamic rules) : it is telling you how much those two young "french" was "french" and how much are "french" their "french" families !

I just found that there is an english translation of the previous french article i talk about.

Go to http://www.claude-ribbe.com/blog.htm

 and scroll down to
Nov. 27
Racism: Guerrilla on Paris' Doorstep

The fucking politicalcorrectness gone mad that’s what we are seeing. Had the fucking “youths” beenregular French, we would all have known it, don’t you worry. But Arabs,Muslims? Oh, how could our lovely Arabs do anything wrong, ever? So they become, endearingly, “youths”.

Youssouf Fofana lead thekidnap of torture and murder of the French Jew Ilan Halimi - just becauseHalimi was Jewish. How is Fofana called by the press? “A boy of 26 years-old” –“un garcon de 26 ans”. Such a cute boy! How could we be rude with the 26-yearold boy who drove cigarette butts through the skin of Halimi! Awwww, such acute boy Fofana!

 It’s all the same now withrioters. They’re not bad, no no no. They’re Arab and Muslim, so a priorithey’re right, a priori the crash victims were right. Right even if they drovelike idiots and crashed into a police car. Police car? Shouldn’t have beenthere. How dare the French police enter an Arab neighborhood and offendtheir sensibilities! We’ll soon here it’s against the Holy Qur’an and we’llhave a few murders of nuns or whatever peaceful Islam, the religion of peace,decides to mete upon the mass of infidels. 

Abe, could you just go to France and see by yourself what is happening there ?

 I have to ask, it seems you didn't understand very well the situation. First we (the french, maybe you didn't notice yet, but Im one of them ! :-) ) don't think of our system have to be changed again because of 300 teenagers who decided to see how it goes when they attack a policeman ! no way. You didn't notice this city is inhabited by about 30000 people and 8000 are between 15 - 25 years old. The last time, in 2005, the rioters were about 2000 ! (Paris is a city of more than 11 millions of people) So, I don't think our little riots (you'll think I delude myslef) compared to yours in LA or the blackout of NYC or again the ones in the UK's cities ! are nothing ! how many people died in France ? none !and we don't talk about billions, even not millions.  I think I have no need to tell you that in LA in the great old United States where immigration is OK, where there is no problem with the community, the numbers of dead people and the number of billions wasted is more speaking than your long and boring speeches about the french society where you have never been. As for the immigrant population, well I suggest you to read the link here : http://pewglobal.org/reports/display.php?ReportID=254

It will learn you more about the french and european societies than any other sources. I don't know if you are a jew, but I suspect the jew people from US and Isreal to make propaganda about the muslim communty in France and its problems in order to push the french jewish community to immigrate to Israel. When I read the article made in Jerusalem about France, I can help but laughing , it's just so stupid sometimes. Some people don't hesistate to underline the FAAAAAAAAACT  France is under attack or Paris is burning, or in 20 years France will be an islamic country , or Israel is more safe than France! lol

 Are you so naive ?

So when you will do another article about this issue, try to make the good comparisons and put your conclusions in the context.

Have a nice day ! :-)

You didn't want the Jews - you gotten Muslims instead. Now do your math and figure which one is better than the other, because while Jews, as poor as they were when they arrived to the US, for example, had struggled to give their children formal education, thus they now occupy key stances in the US. And Muslims? Give me a break. Go to Frankfurt, Germany's narcotic capital, and see who controlls most of the drug trade. Look at how the children of the Muslim immigrants act, and how their teens organize in gangs and terrorize the towns they reside in. Kreuzberg in Berlin looks like a dump, and pretty much any other district/town with above average Muslim population. Likewise in the rest of the civilized world. Where once flowers had blossomed, shit is now piling up.

Who authorized Imams/Muslims do dictate rules for anyone in Europe?
In Europe only the law and UN's declaration of human rights are to be respected.

Whenever religion is involved, Evil is not far away.

"Right, there's the NYT, well-known to be an absolute roundheels when it comes to Muslims, protecting delicate Islamic sensibilities by deliberately concealing the religious affiliations of these perps. Greenwald has obviously been burying his nose in the Protocols of the Elders of the Caliphate again, where such treasonous bargains between supine American journalists and the wily Musselman are bravely revealed."

Ismail's passion got the better of him there. Greenwald isn't arguing that the NYT et al are in thrall to Muslims. He's arguing that NYT et al are afraid of Muslims.

The Religion of Piece.

A bodypiece here,

and a bodypiece there 

Pushing the religion angle here is like accusing Mexican illegals (another group you don't seem to like much) of pursuing some kind of 'Catholic agenda'. Maybe coming over to destabilize Protestant America on direct orders of the Pope? The most enormous irony here is that you as Jewish people are perpetuating the "Islamic conspiracy to establish a worldwide caliphate" with the same paranoid enthusiasm as the neonazis who rant about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and all the other Jewish conspiracy garbage.

"mik-infidelos, are you going to let Ismail contradict you like that??? Am I a cowardly apologist for Islamists like you say or an Islamophobe as he'd have it? "

 Ah right, the post where the author pats himself on the back for his courage because of the perception that he stands tall in the middle while both sides attack him.  Take that, extremists!

I just had a huge bowel movement which included two very large, very smelly turds. I named one turd "Mohammed" and the other "Allah" because as a religion Islam is full of crap! The only thing the savage muslims have ever been proficient at in their history is injuring and killing innocent men, women, and children. Any Muslim who doesn't like this post can come to Texas and kiss my hairy American ass!

Great to know you're proud to be American. Sad though that you're the kind of (insert insult - too lazy) who makes everyone else embarrassed to be American these days.

And nevertheless I can't seem to disagree with him.